Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

J. Morsicle — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:55:08 GMT

Why do you start by saying "Move over, Bill Ayers" when the Ayers and ACORN issue are so closely related.

When Ayers received 50 million dollars for a grant with the express purpose of radicalizing education, guess who he chose to distribute the 50 mil? Why, Barack Obama of course. And where did some of that money go? Why, to ACORN, of course.

They're not different issues, but all part of B.H Obama's web of lies.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Michael Meitner, Panama City Bch., FL — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:37:41 GMT

It's about time you guys at MSNBC did some real investigating. Acorn is threatening the very foundation of our nation's democracy. Are you afraid that the whole truth will come out?

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Nate, Seattle, WA — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:04:09 GMT

Where's the beef?

I see a laundry list of shady characters working near-minimum wage to register voters, but then committing fraud against ACORN. If a cashier at McD's steals from the til, is McD's investigated for fraud?

I see no more of a "troubled history" than any company that participates - and is effected by - state work-release programs.

Two more things:
A.) Voter Fraud could only occur if the ficticious individuals ACTUALLY VOTED. From another story, apparently a "Mickey Mouse" filled out a voter registration card. Now if this Mickey Mouse then shows up and votes, THEN fraud has occurred.

B.) Notice that the GOP is targeting a group that tries to register low-income individuals. Bidness as usual

C.) Notice also that several of the states in question had GOP US attorneys fired by fraud-friendly Alberto Gonzales for... (wait for it)... refusing to prosecute "voter fraud complaints"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/13/AR2007051301106.html

Gonzales got tossed out. Don't let him back in. No more lies. No 4 more years for McSame

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

S. Katz, Mobile AL — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:07:03 GMT

How many people were paid by Karl Rove and RNC operatives to try to register Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse?

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Annette Self — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:08:45 GMT

Our national media should be ashamed of themselves. When these things are going on like Acorn and being so tied to Obama how can they sit on their hands and not report the truth. I do believe that we are seeing the end of the media as we know it as people are sick of their bias.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Harry Raymond, LA, California — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:09:03 GMT

Dont' worry, Republicans. Diebold has programmed their machines to ignore Acorn registered votes.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Pamela Dorsey, Gallipolis Ferry, WV — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:15:42 GMT

Why did it take Republicans to investigate this organization? The media is so busy showing the love to Senator Obama they don't have time to go out and get a real story?

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Al Luedtke, Augusta, GA 30909 — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:17:22 GMT

Obama's political career began in Chicago where the Democrat regimes have had a history of doing what ACORN is doing. With Obama sending money to this group and also instructing them, would you expect anything different? The company that you keep is usually a good indication of your own convictions (no pun intended). Do you really want Bill Ayres, ACORN, etc. to have access to the President of the USA.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

R. Scott Pueblo, Colorado — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:18:06 GMT

All this outrage from the "right" over voter fraud is interesting given the way George W Bush stoled two elections using every fraudulant trick in the book.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

susan williams — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:19:38 GMT

Must be where all the dead folks vote OR some of them dems with funny ideas about the sneaky way they want to vote this time
ME? I havent seen any of them I could trust this time around.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Nate, Seattle, WA — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:22:47 GMT

Here, case-and-point:

"Mich. AG charges ex-ACORN worker with forgery"
http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/news-58/122402154499920.xml&storylist=newsmichigan

That's one person being charged with forgery (and rightfully so). Not ACORN.

That's a pretty small error-rate (so far): 350,000 to 1

Here's a pretty close equivelency: I used to be a training manager at a small Seattle restaurant chain - employing near minimum-wage jobs, and participating with local work-release programs. During my 4+ year employment, I personally fired at least 10 people for theft (and had them prosecuted).

So here's your question, GOP half-wits:
Who was the criminal in this scenario
A.) Me
B.) The Restaurant chain
C.) The employee who stole the money.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Dmitriy Redka — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:30:25 GMT

You better copy and paste this article because when Obamabots will get done with this site it will be hacked into virtual non-existence.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

MANLU@EARTHLINK.NET — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:31:12 GMT

this issue should be published always so simple-minded people who are voting for Obama will think twice.Only smart people who really understand our country will not give their votes for Obama,who is full of lies and has some hidden agenda for himself and his interest in this country.At least I'll be able to sleep with clear conscience after the election because I know I'LL BE VOTING FOR A DIGNIFIED HUMAN BEING,mR. MCCAIN

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

M Borelli, Boston, MA — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:31:41 GMT

This is a great piece of investigative reporting. This truth needs to be told to America and ACORN needs to be stopped if America is to remain democratic. I would love to see one from you guys on Ayers and his ties with Obama. I know there has to be more then one network out there that will uncover the dancing around the Ayers issue from the Obama camp.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

andy-paul greensboro, NC — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:31:54 GMT

If ACORN has registered 1.3 million voters and, though no one has offered a real figure--or at least no one of any reputation for honesty--13000 of them are mis-registrations *from this year* (whether deliberate or not), that leaves them with a 99% accuracy rate in voter registration over the entire country. In King County,WA, alone there are 1.8 million potential voters, and the suit prosecuted against ACORN was last year.

Does ACORN need to figure a better way to pre-screen their workers and their registration documentation? Of course they do. Will a bunch of nonexistent voters be countable at a voting place? That's strains my credulity, unless identification standards are ignored by polling registrars.

I would be much more worried about tampering with voting machines--ask the people of Durham County NC about what happened to them in the Helms/Gantt senate race of 1990.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Jeff D — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:32:04 GMT

From the Article: "ACORN itself had identified most of the fraudulent or duplicative registration forms".

ACORN is required by law to turn over all voter registration cards (even ones filled out by high ex-cons), wether they are suspected of being fradulant or not. ACORN has a program in place to help state officials identify possible fradualnt registrations, and works with officials to make sure any suspect registrations are identified and addressed. ACORN should not be held liable for state officials too lazy to take their jobs seriously.

Not surprisingly, its much easier to report a knee jerk-scandal than to actually investigate the operations of this organization or federal voter registration requirements.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Philip Avon St. Cyr -- Cary, NC — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:32:30 GMT

OK, so what is the nature of the problems here?

1.) They hire criminals.
2.) The people they hire make up names.

And what are the ramifications of those problems?

1.) They give criminals a second chance; it doesn't work; ACORN wastes its money and time.

2.) Fictitious people don't vote; ACORN wastes its time again (and also the time and resources of whatever election oversigh board has to wade through all that bad paperwork).

OK, so where's the fire?

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

W. Truitt, Waco TX — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:42:19 GMT

I watch MSNBC as much as I can stand it just to hear what the liberal media has to offer it's viewers and I am wondering why you would not want your viewers to know this truth which seems to be hidden here on your website. I do appreciate it being here though or I may not have had all the facts. I can tell you that The United States of America has been good to the liberal media and I believe it is only right that you return the favor by reporting this with the same passion you have reported Troopergate. Get this group exposed for what it is and the candidate connected to it and win the the trust of the greatest nation on earth. Get the truth on the table and let us make our choice based on nothing but the truth.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Thomas, Arlington VA — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:44:45 GMT

Just as sleezy as some of ACORN's actions (after all it is a pretty big grass roots effort, there are bound to be a few bad apples....) are the spreading of "talking points" trying to connect Obama to ACORN and Bill Ayers on some critical level.

Since McCain's camp cannot make any official accusations to Obama about any of his actions now or in the past in regards these topics, instead the little people will imply and wink at people and spread rumors and insinuations through email.

Case in point J Morsicle's comment above; So Ayers got 50 million dollars, and so Barack Obama found himself in the leadership role to decide how to use that to reform the education system in some of Illinois' poorest suburbs......

So What? Why don't you just come out and say exactly what your accusations are, and once you know that, why don't you do something about it and see if it sticks?

I am sure McCain and his Repundits have already thoroughly investigated to see how they can use anything against him.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Marc K., Hoffman Estates, IL. — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:44:51 GMT

Republican's need to get a life. ACORN is the problem not Obama or any other politician Democrat or Republican. Both political groups use organizations to register people. Today ACORN is in the spotlight, next time it will be another. Linking Obama to ACORN (or any other problem in the world) and suggesting he is the "demon" behind the attempt at voter fraud is a real stretch.
Why must Republicans try to divide Americans at every turn using fear and lies as their instrument of choice?
The simple fact is no one party or person is 100% correct or perfect.
In the final analysis, our society will only grow when everyone (Democrat and Republican and the extreme religious factions from both ends of the spectrum) understand the necessity of compromise and the need to help and respect one another. We are "Americans" plan and simple

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Dmitriy Redka — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:45:05 GMT

Nate, Seattle, WA. You're missing the point. Unlike your food business that had shady employees, ACORN's main mission is voter registration. And if they submit fraudulent voter registration it goes against their core service. So unless your example is of cooks who provide bad food, your example is irrelevant. And if restaurant chain serves bad food it will reflect negatively on the chain.
Dude, quit drinking Kool-Aid.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

John Allen, Petaluma, CA — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:47:16 GMT

These are all cases of people in low wage jobs trying to scam a little bit, not evidence of ACORN committing fraud. It would be a concern if the members of the Dallas Cowboys were showing up and trying to vote in Nevada, but that just is not happening. ACORN does a lot of good work besides voter registration. They were there when the Bush Administration was MIA during Katrina. This hysteria is pure racism thinly veiled. Especially when you look at the massive ELECTION FRAUD that happened in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Bjornson Aloha Oregon — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:47:28 GMT

Clearly some commenters are here just for the baiting. Certainly they are not stupid enough to confuse voter registration with the actual casting of a vote. The Dallas Cowboys may be registered to vote in Nevada, for them to actually be able to vote there is a completely different matter. And, registering a person to vote does not determine their choice. What might determine their choice is if the election officials have been corrupted by, say, AIPAC or some other foriegn agency whose mission it is to subvert the American system. Republicans are afraid of registering voters because they know that the more voters, the more difficult it will be to employ fraud, again, to steal the election. The percentage of bad registrations out of 1.3 million is ignored in this "Deep Background" which, by that alone, proves it not to be very deep at all. A few charges (always the same ones) and a couple of anecdotes is what "deep" has come to mean to Americans, I suppose. But, usually, this style is the stamp of propagandistic pap.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

John Kocsis, Fairbanks, Alaska — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:47:30 GMT

You seem incapable of reporting a story without a negative political slant against Republicans. Acorn is a racketeering issue it took the Republicans to push until it forced you to pay attention. Your news organization has become a laughing stock of prejudicial reporting and bias in favor of the democrats.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

JBR Austin — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:47:45 GMT

The appearance of this article tonight is indicative of a change in tone from some in the media. These wolves smell blood, and they want in on the feast.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Bill Doe, Lake Orion, Michigan — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:48:21 GMT

R.Scott Pueblo Colo. wrote, "...George Bush stoled two elections using every fraudulant trick in the book". Really? Name one!

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

jon — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:49:14 GMT

As usual, the GOP parrot brigade, takes a non-issue, and tries to make it important.
ACORN's problem is not Voter Fraud, it's their hiring practices. People take their money, and don't do the work. The phony registrations don't vote.
This whole non-story is just another GOP attempt, to disenfranchise lower-income voters, who tend to vote Democratic.
The problem in this Country is Election Fraud, and voter caging/voter suppression. Both being key parts of GOP election strategy.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Ben Meskin. Brooklyn, New York — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:50:27 GMT

It does seem that ACORN has some management problems, not to mention poor screening of potential employees. But let's keep some perspective. Even assuming that there are 10,000 problem registrations (and nowhere near that number was indicated in your report), it still only equals .008% (8/1,000, which equals 1/125, of one percent) of the 1,300,000 registrations ACORN has submitted. While there are certainly legitamate criticisms to be made of ACORN - from the left as well as the right - an error rate of 1/125 of one percent is not much of a story.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

robin h bronx ny cubicz2005@yahoo.com — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:51:31 GMT

roflmao acorn is threatening it> you mean the very institution of democracy that allowed the bushes to steal the last 8 years. you mean the institution that allowed them to send us into financial ruin with their deregulation. need i say more if your going to judge a man by his past associations then please explain to me how in the blazes you all voted for bush and he was and is a alcoholic , liar, theif, dodger, and war monger and mcsame is just like him with a different name.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Michael Wald, Charlotte, NC — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:52:36 GMT

Not to rain on your conspiracy theory parade, but these are VOTER REGISTRATIONS and not actual BALLOTS. Just because an idiot defrauded ACORN by signing a guy up 73 times doesn't mean he will be able to vote 73 times. Obviously these folks need to follow up on their employees more, and get the ones who are wasting time and money off the payroll, but I guess I can't blame the Republicans for grasping at straws at this point.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

K. Dant, Hickory, NC — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:54:06 GMT

Glad the mainstream media is FINALLY doing some investigating on Obama- it is insane how much positive attention he is getting, vs. all the negative attention Pailn has received-

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Donna - Kansas City, MO — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:58:41 GMT

It,s about time that NBC starts telling the truth about Obama being involved with ACORN. And stop lying for him about his involvemnet with Bill Ayers............. this man could be our next President lying all the way to the oval office. Now this is the man we want to be representing our country,and have all of our lives in his hands let alone being in contol of our ecomony.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

A. Shaw, Cincinnati, OH — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:01:30 GMT

Threatening our democracy.. Don't make me laugh.. When the courts decide your president versus who the voters really elected, that's a threat to democracy, when you have government spying on its own citizens, that's a threat to democracy... There are plenty of other examples of threats to democracy, ACORN isn't one of those.

If all it takes for our election system to become a complete failure is bad registration card, we would have a pretty bad democracy. So get a grip and stop making an issue where there isn't one. Get a clue...

Bottomline, yes ACORN has done a bad thing here and hopefully people will go to jail and stop this criminal activity. But it should also be noted that even with the bad registration, our Election system is robust enough to handle this, if it isn't then we have bigger issues. (BTW, Ken Blackwell, Republican, frmr. Sec. of State for Ohio said as much on Hannity and combs show a couple of weeks ago when Fox starting yelling.)

Final point, in 2004 approx 120,000,000 people voted. If we assume that of the 1,300,000 people that ACORN has registered 50% are bad and they somehow are able to cast a vote that would mean 650,000 bad votes are in the system which is approx 0.5%. Of course we could have another Bush V Gore but statistically you all need to get a grip with claiming "Threat to our Democracy" gezz We have bigger real issues then this silly thing.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

steve, akron, ohio — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:01:35 GMT

Uh oh, look out--the GOP is behind and looking to figure out how to blame someone else besides their candidate and his airhead beep selection.
Who can we blame? Hmmm...how about the poor? Sure! They got us into the sub-prime mess....now they are trying to steal an election....and Obama was poor once and worked for them, so surely he must be completely tied in with them, right? What the heck, why not blame Ayers (appointed to Rep. Annenberg-related group, btw), that way we can play the (overplayed) terrorist card, and what the keck, while we are playing the terrorist card, why not throw in the fact Obama has a Muslim name?
Did I cover it all?

Give it up--your old man is losing because he has run his platform on air, no substance at all and now all you righties are grasping at shadows. ACORN may have some nut jobs registering nobodies, but the big picture is a few out of many. Your "group" (read:the Supreme Court) DID steal an election, and look where that got us? Even your own boy (not girl, because she probably didn't read about it) disavows his leader for the last 8 years....

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

JJ Walls Elbert Co./Colorado — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:02:51 GMT

if Obama and his diciples gain power.. I suggest another historical secession. Our beloved country will be hijack by those obamanators whos true purpose is to destroy the U.S.. I hope the veterans and active military recall the oath they took. To protect this country from both foreign and domestic enemies. I have no problem if a democrat becomes President buth if its a 'manchurian candidate' they we must take sides.With Obama and his acornites..United these states no more!

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

http://www.bodyworksbykim.com — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:04:10 GMT

Is this close to what happened on our last election day 4 years ago????

I am confused was it ACORN that caused the vote to be stolen in 04, were they GOP back then.

Well I say hang the SOB'S.

This is the funniest thing I have read in a long time...is this the voice of desperation speaking.

Thank God they caught this BEFORE the election, having a repeat of '04'
would be hell.

OBAMA doesn't need to answer to back page trite!!

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

William Craft Mission Texas — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:05:11 GMT

Our govrnment has made our country as corrupt as the worst third world country and they still let it keep going .Why do they keep commiting crime in the wide open and blameing some one else for it?What Will it take to wake this nation up from this bad dream and take a look at what Acorn and Oboma has been and is still doing to this country .When a true patriot like John Mc Cain cant run a campaign in the open for fear of making the black people upset and call him a George Wallace.And the media make sure he gets by with it.You tell me what is wrong With it.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

CD, San Jose, CA — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:11:22 GMT

ACORN is for the most part a great grass roots community organization. A few bad apples fibbed and you are trashing the entire effort? Sad, as they supplied wonderful loans for low income folks (which in California are every young couple) and they weren't sub prime.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Lance Osborne, Orlando, Florida — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:11:30 GMT

What a red herring. We have so many other issues to talk about and we waste time on this? What about wasting such a great opportunity for a women with such a looser as Palin?

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

JCervini, Davie, FL — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:14:10 GMT

TO: people who say multiple voter registrations don't 'really' matter.
These fraudulent registrations can ALL vote by mail.
Now - do you see how this can effect the election?
DUH!!!!

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Eric,Troy,NY — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:28:53 GMT

why do we need acorns anyway? isn't it good enough to have the right to vote without having to have someone come and guilt trip you to get a registration and possibly hardball you into voting your desired way?

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Barb, PA — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:30:27 GMT

Has anyone in any of these Board of elecctions, or the media or government officials checked to see if these registration forms were tagged as claimed by ACORN? If so why the complaint? If any voter registration group MUST turn in all forms legit or not and that group tags what they think is not legit then why are the election people complaining and not just setting them aside.
And why was there only one article about the illegal pulling of names from the books in the toss-up states?

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Michelle F., Seattle WA — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:31:29 GMT

Nothing in this article suggests that any of these fraudulent applications was going to ever translate into an actual fraudulent vote. And isn't that what we should really be worried about?

I mean, come on now, does anyone really think the Dallas Cowboys were going to present themselves at a Nevada polling station on November 4th in hopes of voting illegally?

If you can't find any evidence that anyone ever planned to turn a fraudulent voter registration into an actual fraudulent vote then where exactly is the harm?

Sounds like a lot of fuss over nothing to me. With the economy on the verge of collapse don't we have better things to be doing with our time?

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

k.sanders,lexington,ky — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:35:12 GMT

Funny how all the McCain yupies pull in here talking about Obama, yet fail realize the man has no political working associations with Acorn. Though i guess they forget when their beloved audlter McCain did a keynote address for them

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

jeff k atlanta ga — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:35:53 GMT

this corrupt organization needs to be shut down. Obama is well aware of these tactics. How did he get a national security clearance to run for president. He is as criminal as ACORN and the main stream press needs to wake up.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Kathy T, Dallas, TX — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:44:54 GMT

Ugh. The people who really care about voting are already registered anyway and both candidates know that; if ACORN did something wrong it's because of bad management. I seriously doubt either candidate knew what the Hell was going on until after it was over.

This is just a distraction and won't change anything at this point.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Ken Finch , Ithaca , NY — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:48:21 GMT

NBC has lost credibilty with this ACORN hit piece. It horrifies me to think your reporter is so wet behind the ears as to think the facts in this article are significant or even unusual. There are checks downstream in the system just because this is the norm in a large voter registration effort. The wet behind the ears theory, however, is more benign that the other likely alternative, that this is a deliberate effort by NBC to subvert the elections. Did Republicans secretely pay you to run this slanderous story?

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Katy , Dallas Texas — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:35:10 GMT

Finally, a little honest journalism, The news, and the celebrities are so bias it infuriates me.
how can a SNL skit can have the good people of the USA following like sheep ..
Has TV comedy mentality turn you all into idiots..
Come on people use your heads, comedy is not real life, and if that's how your see these skits, we are all in real trouble in this country
you are letting TV writers , actors and comedians run our lives.....

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

haha, we have the last laugh — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:36:48 GMT

To Obama Haters:
what a facinating phenomenon - paranoid, racist, small minded bigots flailing for any and all excuses to hide behind. Shame! Shame! Shame! Why is it that you rush to embrace these rubbish associations that any sane and literate person can see have nothing to do with the man Obama? Thank God the majority of us have a brain and will excercise it in selecting a president based on his merits.
And guess what? none of your foolish indignation matters - we are electing him our president....
Wake up! the world has moved on, small minded, ignorant, racist people are the true minority thank God....and, you are the last of an ignorant bunch :-)

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Kae Colchester, CT — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:44:37 GMT

Gee I wonder how many absentee ballots are just waiting somewhere to be presented in the names of those "non-important voter" registrations. In case many of you don't know it, you don't have to go to the polls to vote. It seems to me if ACORN was truly interested in helping REAL people vote they would make sure they hire QUALIFIED employees. They certainly have been supplied with enough funds to do it! They also wouldn't be telling people HOW to register, as in DEMOCRAT. How can anyone say they love their country and DEMOCRACY and feel this behavior is ok! Its funny how the democrats love to blame BUSH because he is the guy at the top but when it comes to OBAMA being dishonest, it is completely washed aside. AMAZING!

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Tom F, Chicago IL — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:46:43 GMT

Ben Meskin of Brooklyn writes....

"Even assuming that there are 10,000 problem registrations (and nowhere near that number was indicated in your report), it still only equals .008% (8/1,000, which equals 1/125, of one percent) of the 1,300,000 registrations ACORN has submitted."

Excuse me, but did Bill Ayers educate you? A percentage is a rate per 100 (cent is latin for 100, and per is also latin for each). If there are 10,000 fraudulent registrations, that is a rate of (10,000 / 1,300,000)X 100, or 0.8%, not 0.008%. One cent is one percent of a dollar, not one one hundredth of one percent.

Nate of Seattle, you are even more pathetic. One in 350,000? That would correspond to four total wrong registrations. Hard to be investigated in fourteen different states for only four errors.

Have fun drinking your Kool Aid. I can only hope that one day YOUR vote is cancelled by an idiot registered in multiple precincts.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

max, albany ny — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:48:27 GMT

I dont have a horse in this race. I wont be voting for either a dem or repub for president.

Still, this number of registrations is a major problem. Yes a registration is not a vote but it does enable a person to vote and NO not all poll workers check ID.

Dont forget there are other races besides president that get decided by a much smaller margin of votes.

This is America, we count all the votes, but in this case we may very well be counting some people numerous times.

Some scumbag that has played the system to vote more than once is a disgrace and should lose their citizenship, access to social services and any other benefit they gain from living in this great country.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Robert — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:54:11 GMT

When do we hear about Obama's $800,000 funding of CSI (which he ACCIDENTLY mis-reported to the FEC)? Turns out CSI is run out of the same offices as ACORN; it's board are all members of ACORN. They are a not-for-profit so they can skirt the nonpartisan requirements of a non-profit like ACORN. This entire operation is a sham to defraud voters--period.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Steve, Atlanta, GA — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:00:38 GMT

If this was a Replublican problem, all of you beleeding heart, left leaning , tofu eaters would be demanding their heads and all of the news media would be screaming about fraud. But no, now you want to put your heads in the sand and pretend that it is not a problem. Obama is trouble, you will see it about 6 months into his presidency when everyone's taxes are hit hard. The joke is that those making over $250K per year is not enough for their money tree. Everyone at $50,000 or higher will be hit. The deadbeats living off the Democratic handouts will only get to sit at home more often and complain about how they do not get any breaks in life.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Evad, Florida — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:04:01 GMT

If tens of thousands of fraudulent names are registered, what is to stop them from being used to complete absentee ballots? Political races have been won and lost over only a few thousand votes... Make no mistake, this is a serious issue that endangers our exercise of free elections.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

SandyB, Deming, NM — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:08:54 GMT

Now that you've finally starting hitting onto the truth here, there have also been reports from former ACORN employee whistleblowers that ACORN'S two branches (Housing and Voting) have been co-mingling funds for years, and that employees have been told to hide documents when Federal auditors come around.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Dan, Juneau, Alaska — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:09:39 GMT

One point being missed here is the intent of ACORN. It is not to get people out and vote. It is to get Democratic votes. In the US we have not only a right to vote, but a responsibility. A responsibility to be informed, and make an intelligent choice. If you take a drunk, homeless person, and tell him you will give him free healthcare, housing, and food if you vote Democratic, then you will have a lot more Democratic votes. This is what ACORN is doing. Is this something to applaud? No. I have worked hard get where I am. I don't appreciate pandering Democrats giving away my hard earned money to get more votes. The mainstream media is so liberal we don't get anything near the truth.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

ProudSoutherner — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:13:01 GMT

news flash!!
McCain Stood With ACORN Rally In 2006
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Acorn_pushes_back_hugs_McCain.html
a pictures is worth a thousand words

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Kristin, Mondovi, WI — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:13:30 GMT

The problem is with ACORN and only reflects on Obama that he habitually supports people, groups that seem to be something other than what they are. He loved the mayor of Detroit giving glowing reviews of this incredible man that we would soon all know. Well we do but not for good reasons. Audacity of Hope, Rev. Wright is another that was inspirational for Obama and now not so much since Wright has somehow changed as of late. Rezko was a known slumlord but not in Obama's eyes. Ayers, a reformed terrorist in Obama's eyes but apparently Ayers feels differently. It always seems that those that Obama trusts and really likes let him down. So either he really is a poor judge of character, or he is extremely easy to fool. Do keep in mind that Obama chose Chicago to begin his political career and just about everybody in the US knows that the political machine in Chicago is ruthless. Of course in politics that is a good thing I guess. It sure leaves a person scratching their head trying to figure out why Obama chooses the "friends" he has. He seems much smarter than that.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

James Whitmore, New Hampshire — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:16:07 GMT

I have a doctorate in Political Science. I am a registered independent.

The incidents at ACORN cannot be definitively linked to Obama. Distance and indirect association cannot be linked directly to Obama's own person or political dogma.

In this same way, the incredulous and racist claims made at McCain campaign rallies against Obama cannot be linked directly to McCain.

Obama does not support voter fraud (or terrorism for that matter). McCain is not a racist (or a religious bigot). Period. Please focus on the issues and each candidates' platform.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

mumblyman@hotmail.com — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:21:58 GMT

This Is Absurd-
1. The state is not going to accept a registration for Mickey Mouse, or Johnny Cash. Acorn only fills out APPLICATIONS- They do not issue VOTER REGISTRATION! Only the Government can issue a registration. Or DENY a registration. We don't want ACORN personnel making the determination of who is legitimate or not, that is the Governments Job. That is why Acorn is required by law to turn in all the applications!

2. If the Government does accept a fraudulent application, Who is going to vote under that name?To vote that identity someone would have to show up with ID (part of the Help America Vote Act requires gov't ID at the poll for registration applications that were not done in person at the state or county office. To Vote that fraudulent name they would need a Mickey Mouse License, or Johnny Cash . No one can vote the names, therefore this is REGISTRATION FRAUD, NOT VOTER FRAUD! THERE IS NO VOTE ATTACHED TO THE PHONY NAMES!

Voter Fraud is someone casting a ballot who is not allowed to vote, or under a false identity.

There is no one voting the fake names!

ELECTION FRAUD IS THE REAL CONCERN-
google brad blog or velvet revolution or spoonamore for details of activities that can affect the outcome of an election

KK, Van, WA

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Tammy Swofford, Dallas, Texas — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:29:04 GMT

So when do we have "monitors" to monitor our own elections, as we sanctimoniously require in other locales? We need to prosecute to the full extent of the law those in ACORN who are hiring people to subvert our election process.

Tammy Swofford

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Trudy Van Dyke San Mateo, CA — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:46:30 GMT

Obama has not used ACORN in the general election, for those of you who like to think the election will be "stolen". He has enough legitimate volunteers who DON NOT get paid to register voters. Once the applications are turned in, IT IS UP TO THE REGISTRAR OF VOTERS to validate the application. Both McCain and Obama have had ties to ACORN. Having said that, it is not a good idea to pay criminals or deadbeats to do this job.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Melinda, SC — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:01:53 GMT

It amazes me that people are so willing to overlook these questionable associations of obamas but are ready to crucify McCain because he occasionally sided with bush. Don't get me wrong, I didn't vote for bush nor do I support him, but I am concerned for the safety of our great nation should obama be elected and radicals and terrorists are his known associates. Every American should be concerned about not only the economy but also our country's safety.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

styleline1952@yahoo.coom — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:05:03 GMT

Even though it is true that registering people does not automatically mean votes, it does raise the concern with absentee ballots that the government will not process the applications properly and some fraud votes will possibly be counted. Has government ever been accurate or efficent?
Thought Obama can not be directly linked to this particular story, he can be direcly linked to Acorn. He admits this.
And this raises the real question... over the past few months many, many questions have been raised about Obama's relations with so many radical people and groups (Ayers, rev. wright, tony resko, and now acorn) it should make people really question this mans judgement and integrity. Show me your friends and I will show you your future.

There is truly no real training or experience to actually prepare a person for the presidents job, so I believe that a persons character, integrity and judgement are of the upmost importance when considering them for the job.
I am a independent and am not a McCain supporter, as I have serious questions about his judgement also, but I do think that his integrity and character are much more solid than Obama.

J. Russell Acworth GA

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

roseville, CA — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:12:54 GMT

I used to work for ACORN. All the allegations ring true to me. That's when I stopped giving money to "worthy" and "noble" nonprofits.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

M. Gallagher, Boston, MA — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:34:34 GMT

Weren't similar accusations in regard to ACORN voter registration efforts made in 2004 and 2006? What was the result of those investigations? What do those "court records" show? Were any charges ever brought against the organization? Did any accusations stick? Was anyone ever convicted of any wrongdoing? Was anyone ever jailed? Fined? Wasn't US Attorney for New Mexico David Igelias improperly fired by the zealots in the Bush Justice Department for refusing (at the instigation of then Sen Pete Dominici) to vigorously prosecute ACORN even though he found absolutely no evidence of wrongdoing? Isn't this whole ACORN thing just another Republican attempt to supress voting by those they expect will not vote their way? Wouldn't a fair inquiry into ACORN's voter registration efforts focus on these questions and not mere politically motivated accusations three weeks before election day?

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Cheri Saeger, Flagstaff, AZ — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:55:31 GMT

Reporting how many registered voters choosing to vote democratic or republican is very important.
When the polls add up the percentage of how many prefer Obama or McCain by registrant and then publicize it, many of the public will automatically vote for the most popular candidate rather than be the odd man out.
The outcome of gathering that information on how many registered voters have registered either Democratic or Republican, no matter which organization has that information, does make a huge impact on how the public votes. That is why this part of gathering registered voters is such an important part of the polls and should not be confused.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Ron A. New Windsor Maryland — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:09:12 GMT

I agree that it is only voter registrations but there are still some very fraudulant things going on here. Not to mention the financial support coming from obama. Other than the fact that Obama is a very good speaker I have not seen him answer one direct question without side stepping around it. My choice is for McCain who has supported this country for many years. He will work for this country and lead us into the future.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

racerkoi — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:12:21 GMT

The law REQUIRES that ACORN they submit ALL names whether they suspect the name is improper or not...ACORN could be violating an individual's rights if they removed ANY names from their lists.

ACORN does the best it can under the circumstances by informing the poll authority if a name is suspect...this is how most of the errors are discovered.

I'm sure this will enrage you GOP trolls, but I think ACORN is doing a service. Since you are SO convinced that ACORN is only mis-registering Democrats in Democratic leaning districts then that will swell the potential number of voters in THOSE precincts. Obviously there won't be any "Mickey Mouse" dropping by to actually vote on November 4th. However the "swollen" numbers may force Election Boards to add to the number voting machines at those precincts rather than historically shorting the number in hopes of discouraging the Democratic vote. See, it's a GOOD thing because it reduces waiting times for people to vote...you wouldn't be AGAINST THAT would you?????

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Matt, Chesapeake, VA — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:27:06 GMT

God help us if the republican party was ever connected to something like that....hahaha. this whole election has been such a one sided joke that just because Fox news does a thorough and balanced job it seems they are slanting to the right. what a joke!

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

pam,saint louis,mo — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:00:12 GMT

excuse me did obama start acorn is he a board member, exactly what does obama have to do with this i dont get it, you can have voter registration fraud because employees are taking advantage of a non profit, but if you sign up mickey mouse when he gets to the polls he wont be able to vote, republicans are good distractors of the issues, yes mickey will not be able to vote so there is no voter fraud, get a life come up with somethin else.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Greg K. Menasha,Wi. — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:36:28 GMT

Is the media ever going to get REAL. This is a joke that they are not looking more into the Bill Ayers connection and ACORN. They park outside of Joe the plumber and Obama and Biden are trashing this guy for just asking a question.The media seems to me to be doing what the media in Russia was doing to usher in communism!These reporters should be ashamed of them selves and go into another line of Work!!!

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Jer Collier Tallahassee, Florida — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:01:22 GMT

MSNBC and its (news team) reminds me that, "Light travels faster than sound". This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

Court documents reveal ACORN's troubled history

Manuela Schiano, Lindenhurst, NY — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:03:38 GMT

I'm interested in why the New York Times, supposedly a news reporting paper isn't picking up the headline on this one. Oh, I forgot - they selectively report based on which candidate they are endorsing (ie not harrassing). Too often are noble causes cloaking what amounts to, if not criminal, but obnoxious behavior. Sure, pull names out of a phone book, clog the system and then have people that legitimately wanted to register to vote be bothered on election day becuase their application hasn't been processed by the state. If you ask me, ACORN has done more to harm the minority voter than anything else.