White-power groups recruiting from military

Evelyn Lemer, Lubbock, Texas — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:39:06 GMT

What is wrong with you people? Do you not realize that WE ALL come from the same GOD!!! Or are you that stupid and ignorant that you think you have a different god than the rest of us that were put on the face of this earth?

White-power groups recruiting from military

S.B. Stein E.B. NJ — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:41:06 GMT

This does pose some concern for many people in the country. There is no good way I can think of to screen people out of the military for this kind of thing. I would have hoped that serving in the military with a cross section of the country would have opened people's eyes to different ways of life.

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Patriot, Canaan, Maine — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:45:18 GMT

Unless I have missed something, none of these groups is listed by Homeland Security as a "terrorist organization"! I am surprised (and pleased) that the FBI has monitored them. I figured with the politization of Justice that they would not be allowed to target any real home-grown threats!

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John Doe Vacaville Ca — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:49:48 GMT

Black power groups like the Crips and Bloods do the same. By ten times more.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Pesant, Fort Collins, CO — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:54:40 GMT

Oh come on, 203? What about the untold numbers of them belonging to Stormfront? What a load of crap report this is. What does a skinhead have to sign a form and receive his White supremacist gold card to be an official member or something?

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C. G., Denver, CO — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:55:59 GMT

What if anything is being done about the known members of these groups who are in the active military?

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Brendan, Pittsburgh, PA — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:03:18 GMT

This is a scary, and possibly real, threat to the possibillity of electing the first bi-racial president in our Nation's History. It's my biggest fear if (and in my hopes, when) Barak Obama is elected that these hate-monger, white-trash, uneducated rednecks will take a shot at our would-be president. Even in parts of Southwestern Pennsylvania, I can see & hear the anti-black sentiment brewing amongst the undereducated white population of the area. My advice to them, go play in traffic blindfolded cause your racisit attitudes make me ashamed to say I'm white.

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Mikebarr, Chicago — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:07:24 GMT

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DLC, Colorado Springs, CO — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:11:45 GMT

I find this article to be very disturbing. I am a retired military veteran of color and to think that some of my "fellow" military members, be they retired and active duty, would join a hate group to harm me because of the color of my skin. I've been stationed in the Middle East and was not afraid of the danger there. I am definitely more concerned, afraid about the domestic "TERRORISTS" here in the U.S. Wake up people to this alarming story. If we continue to ignore the warning signs, danger is definitely on our front steps!!!!!

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Howard D. Reed /Midland, Texas 79701 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:11:45 GMT

Still playing find the boogy man? The "White Extremists" will never do any real harm...the leaders prefer preaching to the choir. As I recall from my Army days, there were a number of recruits with very low GT scores. These are probably their recruits. Why not instead wage a real war on drugs. Or outsource the drug problem to the Chinese. In 1947 they had a severe opium problem which they quickly solved by executing all the pushers and all the users. This is what is required. Anyone who is addicted belongs to their drug and not to themselves. They can not keep any promises or resolutions. Solve the drug problem and there won't be a gun problem...or a supremicist problem.

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Jennifer, Portland OR — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:17:54 GMT

I wonder how many hate crimes are committed by white racists every year ( as opposed to the other way around )? Did the FBI share those figures?

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FLOWER JOHNSON — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:18:57 GMT

THIS IS NOTHING NEW!!!!! IT'D BEEN GOING ON FOR CENTURIES.

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william, memphis tn — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:25:09 GMT

sadly i'm sure these groups aren't too keen
on the idea of having a president of
African-American decent.

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Mike Ford — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:26:15 GMT

The White Supremacist groups have been actively seeking recruits with past or current military expertise in weapons,explosives, tactics, etc. for decades, this recent relevation is no surprise.

I do not condone or agree with all of their views but must agree that White American males and their families are fed up with a government that has empowered Blacks and other so called "Minority" groups through 40 plus years of affirmative action that penalizes American whites by giving preferental treatment to these "Minorities" in terms of educational benefits and jobs.

If you don't believe me, go into ANY government office AND VA Hospital and look at the ratio of "Minority" supervisory positions held.

Example after example of cases where Whites have been passed up for promotions by "Minorities" that actually scored lower in testing are abundant.

People should be awarded according to their accomplishments achieved, not by the color of their skin.

Until this happens, White Supremacist groups will continue to exist.

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GDW, Houston, TX — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:31:14 GMT

The Crips and Bloods aren't Black power groups.

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Cheryl from Orange County — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:32:14 GMT

John Doe from Vacaville -

Crips and Bloods don't do the same thing. They have idiots of all colors.

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GEM - Rochester, NY — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:35:01 GMT

The greatest thing about this country is that groups like neo-nazis have the right to exist, the right to speak and the right to recruite! We often forget that this is the price we pay to be a free nation!
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" -- Voltaire

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Ranger Hall — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:45:45 GMT

Preservation of the WHITE Race. Well lets see. WE have Black Groups, WE have Mexican Groups, We have Cuban Groups, We have Asian Groups, We have chinese groups, ETC. WHATS wrong with having A WHITE GROUP. Where do i Join.

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andy phoenix arizona — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:50:38 GMT

ill acknowledge i dont like this at all however ill also say that the constitution grants them the freedom to say whatever they decide to and be in any group they want to
i will not trample the constitution just because i dont like what they are
however i do have a question
when they harm someone where can i sign up for the firing squad??
while their views disgust me like so many other things they are free
do not persecute them until they commit a crime i say this as a 20 year old white guy so take it however you want

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George, Maui, Hawaii — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:52:11 GMT

The media calls them "White-Supremacist" to demonize them, the way they called the folks at Waco "Cult Members".

White-survivalists would likely be more accurate, with caucasians in minority status in three states already; Hawaii, Texas and California. If I lived in a high-crime area, and/or close to our southern border, trying to cope with the 133k violent criminals coming north yearly, I'd be looking for competent people to stand with me, regardless of color, or politics.

I find it odd that white liberals are lining up to support and vote for a guy ( Obama ) who hates America and white people, which strikes me as very self-destructive. While Susan Sontag and her friends probabily are a cancer, I see nothing wrong with being white, which is the whole point of this article; to make whites to feel ashamed of themselves because of the color of their skin.

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Kenneth Miles, Oklahoma City, OKlahoma — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:58:46 GMT

The bloods and the crips are not "black power" groups. They are gangs, and generally no better then thugs in the streets who sell drugs and guns to kids. Its ridiculous to even compare them to a white power group. Bloods and crips don't do it for their race, they do it for money and street power. And also, there are black, white, and mexican gang members in both the bloods and the crips. As far as the white supremacist go, they are idiots if they haven't figured out that we all have to live on this planet together. Its a waste of a life to hate anyone because of what color they are, or where they are from. They need to grow up. Its not 1908.

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v washington — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:00:00 GMT

it took one Timothy McVeigh to blow up a building. it will take only one of the 203 skin to do the same
with the right training like McVeigh. So don't underestimate this report it could come back to haunt.

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Ryan, San Diego, California — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:02:50 GMT

"It’s important to remember that Timothy McVeigh, who murdered 168 people with a truck bomb, got his training in the military,” he added. POTOK?
What's important to remember is he was a machinegunner. Improvised explosives are taught to a select few in the military, not your everyday joe grunt! Don't miscontrue the facts to support your scare tactics, Potok.

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Tyrone Biggums — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:02:59 GMT

(Black power groups like the Crips and Bloods do the same. By ten times more.
John Doe Vacaville Ca (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:49 PM))
Yes I agree except they totally EXPLOIT their own neighborhoods and their own people for financial gain when it comes to drugs and crime including innocent people.

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Jane Doe, Saint Louis, Mo — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:03:17 GMT

Gangs such as the crips and bloods are not black power groups. Please get your facts straight. Most of our fears come from a wealth of misinformation which makes us easy targets for fear mongers to pray on. Stop making yourselves victims of untruths an innuendo. Stop giving them power over your life and thoughts. Stop allowing them to makes fools out of you. The crips and bloods aren't the biggest threat to you. Far from it. The biggest threat to you is your on incredible stupity for not realizing that the best war tactic is to divide and conquer. That's the mind game that these fear mongering groups play on you. Blame all your problems on blacks, muslims,the baby, your dog, your cat. Blame it on anybody but yourself. God forbid that you ever deal with some reality in your lives. First, look in the mirror, second, do some research, third, accept whatever role you've played in the current circumstances that exit for you. You all will be much better people for it and opposed to blaming others.

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Jeff — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:03:30 GMT

Seriously? Really folks, let's think long and hard about this one. I've been in the Military for more than 18 years now, and planning on retiring in 2010. I haven't seen much for recruiting of this nature, and I've been deployed twice now, in support of OIF I and II.... Someone is really reaching, if you think about it. Right now, all branches of the Service are hurting for personnel, so, of course, we're dropping some of the requirements down a bit, to meet the numbers.
I was at Bragg when a lot of this stuff was going on in the mid-90's. I saw it first-hand, and know that their isn't much left, for large groups. If I was a betting man, I'd expect more of a threat from small, foreign, terrorist-cells, here domestically, rather than a white-supremecist threat. Go to www.globalincidentmap.com, and you will see what I mean... This details the unclassified portions, of terrorist threats and activities, that a lot of Americans should see...

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John Eschen Grand Coulee Wa — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:03:33 GMT

You reap what you soe. I heard that time and time again and from different people.
People who soe pain will reap pain. There is no master race ! We are all part of this planet.

Some people in our society think they are superior because of their skin color or financial statis.
But in Gods eyes all people are the same. You can't not tell me that God only made white people. How do you account for all the other races ? I know that some would say that these people are mud people. Like cattle !

I have seen two sides to this movement. And they do have a good side. And yes they do have a bad side.
But are they really willing to scarifice their lives for their cause. Yes ! Oh yes ! But is the cause worth their eternal souls. I can't answer that one because each person makes a choice to either live a life the best way they can or they choose the path that leads to destruction.

I hope that they will stop before it's to late. They have seen much pain in thier life times. But at the same time they have caused a lot of pain them selves.

Each day they have the chance to change how our world functions. Why can't they choose peace for once in their lives ? I have seen enough in my life time and I'm tired of it aren't you ?

God help us all ! Go America..

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Tyrone Biggums Sharon,PA — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:05:11 GMT

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J.T. Missouri — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:15:18 GMT

This message is for Brendon from Pittsburg, PA.
Brendon I found what you said to be incorrect I’m not saying I don’t agree with you but you are not 100% correct. The reason this infiltration is now spreading into the military is because they are very well educated. You think they are dumb red necks and hillbilly’s but that is not true. I myself have been around this type of environment my whole life. I know over 300 members worldwide through my travels all but a few of them “exactly 5” either have 1-3 different master degrees or a PhD each. The secret is like the whole mafia thing “What mafia there is no mafia” but the truth is they want you to keep thinking the same way. Underestimating them is there biggest strength. Why do you thing the FBI tracks them when they are not required to? They are a bigger threat than most people know. There is no way to stop this infiltration.

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Christian Adair Lexington KY — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:27:53 GMT

Skin Heads, KKK, Crips, Bloods, Latin Kings, Mafia, are all terrorist groups and need to be treated as terrorist llike al Queda. The all terrorise American citizen.

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John Doe, longmont colorado — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:32:47 GMT

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Robert Stonerock, Ohio — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:44:55 GMT

In my 23 years of military service, I never met anyone affiliated with these "hate groups". The military is the best place to educate our youth on racial and cultural diversity. I gained an appreciation for groups that I would not have encountered had I not joined the military. It opened my eyes and my heart for my fellow comrades. There are "kooks" of every color in our society. The military is no exception.

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Jim Dallas, Texas — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:53:41 GMT

So what? It takes all kinds of idiots to make a world. Do these idiots really think they can stand up to the most powerful military in the world (U.S). Our Govt. is not perfect but it is the best in the world. I am a retired (served 21 years) vet and I believe 110% in our Govt and if need be will fight these idiots head to head to defend our Constitution.

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Sagi P., Boise, ID — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:57:45 GMT

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D Deatherage / Long Branch, NJ 07740 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:57:56 GMT

Hooray the FBI got a chance to investigate something without some special interest group filing a complaint (yet).

I am certainly not advocating for the white power extremists, but turn about is fair play, what would be the uproar if it came out the FBI investigated the Crips and the Bloods, both of which are far more serious of a threat to most Americans than a group of nuts that meet on farms and burns crosses.

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Oz Shah, Portland, Oregon — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:06:38 GMT

..and of course if a skinhead white supremacist kills scores of innocent people on US territory, he or she will only be called a killer and not a terrorist. However, if the skinhead happens to be Muslim (highly unlikely), then he or she is a "terrorist". Amazing how this hypocracy called the United States works.

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Quincy Parquette, Satellite Beach, Fl — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:16:31 GMT

Bloods and Crips are not black power groups they are gangs.Gangs that kill each other over red and blue. They are usually blacks killing other blacks so I don't know what John Doe Vacaville Ca is talking about!

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TJ, Pittsburgh, PA — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:20:34 GMT

these hate-monger, white-trash, uneducated rednecks will take a shot at our would-be president. Even in parts of Southwestern Pennsylvania, I can see & hear the anti-black sentiment brewing amongst the undereducated white population of the area. My advice to them, go play in traffic blindfolded cause your racisit attitudes make me ashamed to say I'm white.
Brendan, Pittsburgh, PA (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:03 PM)"

Wow, Brendan. You have some serious hate issues along with that 'white guilt' thing you got goin' on. I find your comments and stated beliefs as offensive and disturbing as I do the idea that white power groups are recruiting from our military. Hate is hate, Brendan and all hate is disgusting.
Sagi P., Boise, ID (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:57 PM)

Brendan, I also live in SW PA and I agree with you completely!!!

Either Sagi in Boise has no idea what it is like to live as a decent, educated, open-minded individual in the midst of the garbage constantly creeping around you with their ignorant yet arrogant attitudes of the certainty and rightness of their "opinions," or he/she is simply one of them!

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Peter, Fremont — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:23:25 GMT

How about the people of color in the armed services who have gang associations/activities while on active duty? That is a way bigger problem.

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Jarnell Miranda, Phoenix, AZ — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:23:58 GMT

The Crips and Bloods are not black power groups, they are gangs. I also like how the person who wrote that used the name John Doe. Anyway, the danger here is not that white supremicist are recruting from the military. The problem is that they are recruting for a war against America. It was an American, not some foreign nation that bombed the federal building in Oklahoma City. If our government does not keep an eye on this type of thing, it will be hard to stop domestic terrorism.

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Joaquin Lopez — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:31:28 GMT

Terrorism is a crime, and this is an appropriate response is to gather intel to identify the threat, and when an act of terrorism is to be commited, go and get 'em, instead of waiting and and allowing it to take place like in 9/11, and then labeling anyone as a "terrorist" so we can commit any number of human crimes against them, similar so called slang of "haji" in Iraq and numerous crimes of humanity committed against anyone collectively grouped as a "haji".

These are minor groups that seek to grow their power by having some military knowledge; I hardly see them as a threat compared to criminal gangs like ex-para-military trained by US from El Salvador that the police won't even touch in local cities.

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John M, Blue Ridge, Georgia — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:42:59 GMT

they should also include the NAACP as a hate group
and a antisemitic group.....face it...all people are proud of their race and try to show it but white folks are the only ones labeled racist......the ones to watch today are the Mexican/Latino groups....there are some real hate groups within those...many say they will try and take the southwest back, claiming it was stolen from them......if they want to help lower the numbers who join these groups...stop the giving of special rights to certain peoples and lets just say equal rights for all americans...no special laws or treatment to anyone because of race or beliefs....racists are found in people of all colors......but we only hear or read about white ones....isnt that a form of discrimination...

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RL, Idaho Falls, ID — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:03:24 GMT

203? This is gross that anyone would join up, but that is pretty small, compared to the whole. I imagine the numbers of our children being recruited into gangs all over the country is much, much higher. Why not freak out about that? Why not put the microscope on that? Why not stop adding to the hatred you claim is "such a problem" and deal with the bigger issue... hate and believed entitlement in general.

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marj downing Oklahoma City, OK — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:07:44 GMT

remember that Timothy McVeigh was a military man.

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Gillespie, R (Vet) US ARMY — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:08:43 GMT

White, black, yellow, and brown are all of who I am. I thank the good LORD for opening my eyes to that fact. I embrace God's spoken truth, (1) "God is NO RESPECTER of persons.” Acts 10-34 & Duet 10-17 (2) We are ALL created in HIS image; if in doubt, seek HIM out...in the BIBLE of your choice. I used the KJV 1611 Edition.

Before anyone joins an EVIL HATE group like that, you best count the costs'. We do not want them here; moreover, in The Armed Forces!

Hate me instead, and know... that I have forgiven you in advance.

Regards, The Man of Many Colors

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Gaston, Indianapolis IN — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:19:42 GMT

It behooves the federal Govt to cooperate more with local law enforcement agencies & the FBI by releasing military records which contain a particular disciplinary problems of certain military members primarily in the Army & USMC who engage or previously participate in hate groups or activities such as the KKK, WHite Power, Stormfront, Neo-Nazi skinhead organizations.

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CDS Folcroft, PA — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:33:53 GMT

To Sagi P in Idaho;

You may be right in your intolerance of Brendan's intolerance of the rednecks in this Commonwealth...but I have to side with Brendan's sentiments; but only because I truly believe that these are the sort of people that are preventing the rest of us from evolving into something better. I mean really! If we had overcome racism in the 60's and 70's when we had the chance, maybe we would be talking to alien civilizations by now...instead of allowing a warmongering Texan continue to pour kool-aid for the masses.

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Rick C, Houston, Texas — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:36:56 GMT

...what would be the uproar if it came out the FBI investigated the Crips and the Bloods, both of which are far more serious of a threat to most Americans than a group of nuts that meet on farms and burns crosses.

Oh really, D Deatherage? Ever heard of Timothy McVeigh or Theodore Kazinsky AKA The Unibomber?

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Cubana88 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:42:23 GMT

This really isn't a new phenomoma in the Miltary. As a retired Equal Opportunity Advisor in the U.S Army, we constantly provided training on these groups' tactics for adding military personnel to their rolls. One key factor that we all must remember, is that the military is but a reflection of our over all society! So what's walking around in the civilian sector, is doing the same in the military. Vigilence is the key!

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Tom The Patriot — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:42:24 GMT

While everyone was all excited about 9-11 and Iraq, the right wing Christians have taken over all the military academies and the entire Pentagon. No solider can't advance in the military unless they go to daily Christian prayer groups, listen to officers pray during meetings, and support their ultra-right wing objectives. Jews, pagans and atheists are all debased, attacked and kicked out of the military for this good reason. The Pentagon is full of these people now spying on left wing, anti-war groups, democrats and anyone they feel like. They tap your phone or look at your computer anytime they want. All those nukes and defense systems are now under the control of CHristian ultra right wing fundamentalists. The stats above in the article are probably only the tip of the iceberg. Feel safer now?

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Cubana88 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:43:03 GMT

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Jason, Davenport, Ia — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:06:47 GMT

Oh, Noe's 203 people! And only 19 of them are ACTUALLY verified veterans. 19! Out of, what, 150,000 in Iraq right now, Plus another 50,000 back from Iraq, 90,000 in Afghanistan, 40,000 in Korea... do you get the idea here? we're talking about less than .001% and you call this news??? The world is filled with stupid people, fighting for stupid causes. White supremacy is one of the smallest. It probably took more federal agents to figure this out than there are white supremacists in America.

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Robert H, Foat Wuth, TX — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:09:40 GMT

The New Black Panthers, Muslim Extremists, La Raza, open borders with no plan to stop an invasion of the southern states, murdering innocent children by fire in Waco,Tx., out of control political correctness, reverse discrimination, our industrial base shipped over seas, crooked politicians stealing us blind, and you guys are complaining about a bunch of good ole-boys playing army. When they come and pull your sons n daughters out into the sreet in the middle of the night, you might wish you had a few redneck friends to lay down on them for you.

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glo4u056@msn.com — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:20:23 GMT

This report does not suprise me, after all I live in the good ole USA, where hypocrits are trained everyday. We talk about the Jihad, how are these groups any different. That is the reason why our country is by far hated so much, not because we are the greatest but because we are the phoniest.

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Ezra M. / Godfearing, Alabama — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:29:08 GMT

-Robert Stonerock

I can agree with your comment 100%. I grew up in a traditionally all-white region of northeast Alabama that was coincidentally location to past-KKK activity. I joined the Army a few years ago and I must admit, it was quite a culture shock for me having never been in a "mixed" crowd. By the time ITB was over, I wouldn't have cared if you were simultaneously every color of the rainbow. The fact that anyone, regardless of color, has the courage to sign that dotted line earns them more respect in a matter of moments than most people will accrue in a life-time. Besides, in the Army, we were told we're all green anyways. =)

-Sagi P

All I have to say is welcome to America where we fight racism with more racism. I personally am not a fan of the idea of "ruling" or "controlling" by fear but I'd be willing to guarantee that all of these supremasists/gangs would respond much better to fear than the Islamic-extremists do. The latter welcome death, the former would probably break down crying if you were to stick a gun in their face and demand they act like a decent human-being. On that note, I'd also be willing to guarantee that those wimpy human-rights organizations would have a field-day if someone were to take such direct action and to them I simply say that if these problematic people don't want to act like decent human-beings and honor the rights of others, they may as well be forfeiting the rights they have as American citizens.

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boonpin p., california — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:33:33 GMT

I came to this country some 35 yrs ago. I learned to love this country and royal to her. My church teaches us that no matter what color of skin we have , black, yellow, brown, or green we are the children of GOD and precious in His sight. If we want our coutry in peace , we should love each other. If we are strong,and in unity, the ennemy will flee from us.

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Iron Mike — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:33:47 GMT

Those who say these extremist nuts pose no threat must have forgotten about Tim McVeigh.

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Michael San Antonio, TX — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:40:18 GMT

i spent four years in the United States marine Corps, and if you ask any devil dog, they are brothers in combat. But, when not in combat or a combat situation, most people tend to click with their own race, is very clear in my experience. We had a few good ol boys that could care less for blacks or mexicans, but we had mexicans and blacks that could care less for the good ol boys as well. We can preach and try to teach everyone to get along, but there are some people that will stick to their ignorant ways. Is this story a scare tactic way of getting attention? Maybe, but it does address a real life issue. All we can hope for is that the correct authorities keep track of the situation so that we dont have another OK City incident.

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Tim, seattle, washington — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:46:28 GMT

Why does it have to do anything about god? why cant it just come down to skin color does not mean anything. We are all equal.

Bring religeon into this, and you sound and look just like bush. ugh.

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American Lobo, L.A., C.A. — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:50:39 GMT

there is a big difference between Crips/Bloods and White supremists groups. Crips/Bloods dont primarily target cultures/people other then their own. They mostly fight/steal/kill amongst themselves and other gangsters.

White supremists believe they are righteous in killing Jews and any non-white people.

I'd bet that many more innocent people have been killed by white power groups(KKK and others) than by Crips/Bloods.

It's interesting to note that almost all serial killers and a lot of school yard shooters have been white.

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John — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:50:43 GMT

With the many multi-culture families in this country and around the world, I believe anyone affiliated with these type of organizations should be watched very close. Without doubt they are a threat to world peace. Another Hitler can be grown if not watched & controled.

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James McCurdy Lake,Florida — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:50:53 GMT

If they are already in the military, then the government is not screening their recruits, just signing them up just like the candidates. A person being hired to drive an 18 wheeler goes through a more rigged background check then these candidates.

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Kendall San Antonio, TX — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:51:56 GMT

So we now know because of CNN reporting that a million 1,000,000 Americans are on this Terror Watch list, My question is when are we going to start classifying these group, we know which groups they are MS13, Crips, Bloods, MM , Skinhead, white supremicists, Neo- Nazi's and they get arrested for many things, and they have the tatoos, when are we going to mark these like those we do at the airports?

White-power groups recruiting from military

CCR, PNW, WA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:58:11 GMT

The military does have a policy in place for supremist affiliation. The military person can't be an 'active' member, i.e, attend meetings, recruit others into the supremist group, attend rallies, etc. There is also a policy regarding gang affiliation. While there is continuous diversity training and exposure to people from all walks of life, ethnic, socio-economic, gender, education; fear, intolerance and hatred are a part of society. The military is a mirror of society. It is a sub-culture that teaches core values to it's members. Hatred is not in keeping with those core values. Those who choose to affliate with supremist groups, militas or gangs, do so in secret. When exposed, they are punished accordingly and separated from active duty without the possibility of rejoining or going into the reserves.

White-power groups recruiting from military

K. Reece — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:02:52 GMT

The only people that the crips & bloods threaten are each other and the other idiots that belive in that way of life.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Anonymous. Tired of the Double Standard, USA. — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:10:40 GMT

"Wow, Brendan. You have some serious hate issues along with that 'white guilt' thing you got goin' on. I find your comments and stated beliefs as offensive and disturbing as I do the idea that white power groups are recruiting from our military. Hate is hate, Brendan and all hate is disgusting."

Amen. What a hypocrite. He must be as "uneducated" as these so-called "white trash rednecks" (his words, not mine) to not see the overt hypocrisy in his post.

I guarantee you not all of these white extremists are "rednecks" as you point out. So stop stereotyping.

Furthermore, why is it that the only group of people that can be denounced and made fun of is Southerners? I bet I would be censored if I made a post containing racial epithets against Jews, blacks, etc. But it's somehow okay to let slide the same type of comments about Southerners? That's BS.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Alison, Los Angeles, CA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:12:21 GMT

I have long thought the US missed an opportunity when they did not include "domestic terrorists" in their enforcement of the Patriot Act. The KKK is as much a threat to national security and its members should be in Gitmo as we speak along with every other suspected terrorist.

I'm also concerned that this FBI report only focuses on the 203 being recruited from the military. That small number, however, represents at least 2 problems: 1) it says nothing about the many other members who have not served in the military, and 2) it says nothing about the possible military training those 203 are providing to perhaps many thousands.

Most importantly, these seemingly small numbers threaten to lull us into a false sense of security. Because the number misses the point: It only take ONE gunman ...

I for one am gratified that Obama took on Secret Service personnel early on in his campaign, and I trust they were CAREFULLY screened for racial bias, which has recently been exposed in the mainstream national media as a problem in the Secret Service.

Even among dutiful officers with a lesser degree of bias, such bias could compromise their judgment in a moment of crisis or high alert. It only takes a moment's hesitation or laxness to undo years of careful training when it counts most.

White-power groups recruiting from military

J. Smith, Kansas City — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:15:16 GMT

Not a whole lot of attention is given to the Bloods and Crips which are violent street gangs dealt with by gang units, because the people they prey on are the blacks in their neighborhoods. The Latin gangs are a bit more far-reaching.

They are violent gangs. White supremacists are anti-government terrorist organizations, along with being violent gangs.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Concerned Citizen — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:17:13 GMT

Just remember, it was just a small group of racists who made up the National Socialists in Germany almost 100 years ago. The small group of hate mongers turned a whole nation of well educated citizens into a religious and racial genocidal machine. Can't happen here? Guess again!

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Ben, ames, iowa — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:22:15 GMT

To the man in Pennsylvania who wrote "hate-monger, white-trash, uneducated rednecks"----Why do people try to make us feel guilty for being white. I bet you wouldn't write that about a black person. And thats part of the problem....I would have to say it is the "white people" who have put Obama in the position he is in now. Lets have a fair country. BET? Is that not Racist? WHat if there was a WET? Can you imagine the uproar? Think people....

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D. Nolan — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:24:06 GMT

Gang activity groups in the military are investigated as well as hate groups. Recruiters have become experts at tattoos and insignia in an attemt to weed out members. Don't attempt to justify hate groups by pointing out gangs, it's a weak argument. Since when did 2 wrongs make a right?

White-power groups recruiting from military

no name, no city, none of your buisness — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:25:35 GMT

With this country (which is no longer the UNITED STATES but heading toward THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION and the world in such a mess)i am not surprised that this is happening. All other colored groups can speak up but when a white man speaks up then it's considered a threat. I am for equality but i think the white man deserves to speak as well. This country and the world is run by bankers and they should be the ones to be brought to justice!

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SM, Yakima WA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:47:16 GMT

MEChA is a Hispanic separatist organization that encourages anti-American activities and civil disobedience. The radical members of MEChA who refer to themselves as "Mechistas," romanticize Mexican claims to the "lost Territories" of the Southwestern United States -- a Chicano country called Aztlan (Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington). In its national constitution, MEChA calls for self-determination by its members to liberate Aztlan. MEChA's national constitution starts out: "Chicano and Chicana students of Aztlán must take upon themselves the responsibilities to promote Chicanismo within the community, politicizing our Raza with an emphasis on indigenous consciousness to continue the struggle for the self-determination of the Chicano people for the purpose of liberating Aztlán."

Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge's MEChA chapter has been quoted as saying: "The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled -- opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power."

Former MEChA members include Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who was officially endorsed by La Raza for mayor and was awarded La Raza's Graciela Olivarez Award. California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante is also a former MEChA member. He delivered the keynote address at La Raza's 2002 Annual Convention. La Raza recives millions of federal grant dollars each year. La Raza was actively funding MEChA, according to federal tax records. La Raza literally means "The Race".

203 members recruited and the government investigates while giving millions to an equally racist hate group? Somethings wrong with this story in that its not one.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Modern Day Paul Revere.. — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:51:08 GMT

Fight to protect what constitution? Oh you mean that thing this pathetic government of ours has altered over and over to line their pockets with cash? Face it pal even the government is dirty and cheap.........If Thomas Jefferson and others were alive today not only would they be sick to their stomachs because of the world affairs but even more to see what was fought for freedom from Britain........Has now became the same overly taxed mistreating of the governments own people......

White-power groups recruiting from military

new york — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:52:48 GMT

Brendan you need look no further than your own comments to see what is wrong with extremists. Why are you so filled with hate for your fellow man? All hate is disturbing, including your version.

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Concerned Soldier and American — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:59:42 GMT

I am currently an active duty soldier and if there are racists in the military then most hide it well, as they should because since being in (11 years total) I have never seen a display by white soldiers. You can go to a club on base and see gang signs thrown during a song but that doesnt seem to be brought up. Why is that? In case some people didnt realize this but we may be soldiers but are still human and were brought up certain ways and your past is never far away no matter where you might be. Cant by now we all just get along?!

White-power groups recruiting from military

VVee — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:29:18 GMT

crips and bloods are not hate groups.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Flashboy McNeil Des Moines, Iowa — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:41:28 GMT

Wow!!!! when will this change, probably never as long as people like this are alive. I've been harrassed by noose hanging and all but to think there are white supremacist groups trying to recruit military personnell is rediculus. get over it people because you can't stop change, whatever direction God wants this world to go in, then please believe it will go in that direction nothing more or nothing less. take a course on Black American History and you'll see that there are probably more black Americans that has died for this country thean any other race.

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Kristian, Los Angeles — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:48:40 GMT

Tim McVeigh was a gunner in a Bradley fighting vehicle. He did not learn how to build a bomb in the Army. Also, black and latino gangs are widely known to have infiltrated the military in search of weapons and tactics. Is that not worthy of mention here? This story is pretty weak.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Jimmy Doe Jackson, Washington, DC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:50:24 GMT

The Crips and Bloods primarily kill Crips and Bloods, i.e., undereducated and self-hating economically challenged black people. There should be no attempt to realistically compare white supremacists who want to kill people who don't look like them to gang members who simply want to kill each other. Let's be serious!

White-power groups recruiting from military

Ben Franklin — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:52:31 GMT

Maybe alot of people feel these groups have some legitimate arguments, in the elitist-run mess known as 21st Century America. If there were no demand, there'd be no supply.

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F. Sponseller, Nashville, TN — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:53:31 GMT

It just takes one nut to create a forest. Hitler was such a nut and he lulled an entire country of intelligent citizens to follow his ways. Don't ever discount the nuts out there AND never think of cross burning as a lesser threat.
These people have a right to talk about whatever they want. But, when it comes to threats, that is where freedom of speech becomes blurred.
Voltaire said, "I do not agree with a word you say, but I will die for your right to say it." PERSONALLY, I don't think I would die for someone that threatens and denigrates other people.

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Jim Allentown, PA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:55:40 GMT

I don't understand why articles like these make it seem like whites are the reason for continued racism. Has anyone heard a Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton speech lately?

White-power groups recruiting from military

N. Pierre - Tutangata, Sydney, Australia (ikurangi_1@yahoo.com.au) — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:00:28 GMT

Ahhh! You Americans! You jump at every gnat that hums! We have "people of middle-eastern appearance" and "people of African appearance" as our new bogies in Australia. We also have people "of Asian appearance" and "of Pacific Island appearance" to support the stand-by bogies of people "of aborigine appearance."
Want any more bogies? The Crips and the Bloods? Balderash is the word. I like the China solution to extremists, the drug fraternity, paedophiles, rapists and the like - Howard R. Deed has a solution close to my heart - outsource the problems to those who have a track record of success in solving them.

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Keith Phoenix,AZ. — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:19:10 GMT

Don't blame the military for those idiots.
The military is totally color blind. The only problem with race and the military are the little babbies who join and won't listen to people from different races. These little babbies just want to pout and stomp their feet and cry about the black Sargent or the white Sargent or the black Col. or the white Col. Grow up you babby!!!!
That is what help destroy our Army in VietNam
The black solders calling the white NCO"s "the man" and the whit solders disrespecting the black NCOs.

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G.M. Haggard Arlington, Texas — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:33:13 GMT

Even though it is alarming, what has been written about the gang members of color that are doing the exact same thing?

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kikkadan@hotmail.com — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:40:45 GMT

Black power groups like the Crips and Bloods do the same. By ten times more.
John Doe Vacaville Ca (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:49 PM)

Joe first of all Crips and Bloods are not lack power gangs their membership includes Asians and Whites. I do agree with the fact they are a dangerous bunch that should have no place in our military. However, having served myself with a white power skinhead people can and do change their political views and issuses concerning race. The militarly can only do some much with this gans as you know we have freedom of speech in our country and unless they break laws or the UCMJ nothing can be done. I think the media in their quest to sensationalize subjects is way off the mark here the U.S. is manned by some of the greatest people you will ever meet, so please don't let this .01% mislead lead.
Rom. Tokyo, Japan

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Chris, Boaz, Alabama — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:48:51 GMT

I see more hate and fear in these comments than I have ever seen in white power groups. Talk about xenophobia! Evelyn, keep your God handy as a shield against understanding and an open mind. Brendan, you're what Barack was talking about in his comments about Pennsylvania. Chill out, people! .

White-power groups recruiting from military

Richard, Vienna, VA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:00:10 GMT

"It's my biggest fear if (and in my hopes, when) Barak Obama is elected that these hate-monger, white-trash, uneducated rednecks will take a shot at our would-be president. Even in parts of Southwestern Pennsylvania, I can see & hear the anti-black sentiment brewing amongst the undereducated white population of the area. My advice to them, go play in traffic blindfolded cause your racisit attitudes make me ashamed to say I'm white.
Brendan, Pittsburgh, PA (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:03 PM)"

Hey Brendan, other white people are more embarassed about you being white than you are, first because you are so blind that you don't realize that there is a bigger threat from gang members and non-citizen foreigners joining our forces and learning these skills, than a handfull of "white" individual. The most dangerous skill is the one that makes you "numb" to killing, and there are thousands of "blacks" that exercise that in the streets already, so don't make it a white thing. And second, because you are so racist with your "white guilt" that you would vote for a Marxist like Obama, just because he is black.

and to the "retired veteran of color,"

who feels safer in the middle east than in America, despite the fact that you are free to return to the Middle East anytime you want, - I'm glad I didn't serve with someone who would doubt my loyalty and honor, just because of a bogus investigation by a Racist Anti-White organization (Southern Poverty Law Center) and an article written by a media outlet that makes it's money by keeping animosity stirred up between races. If you believe this about your brothers in arms. With that kind of mental capacity, heck, you might have retired as an E2.

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cc — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:01:54 GMT

All of these groups are "terrorists" and should be treated as such.. I have always thought that our biggest problem is from within.. and so it is. It appears that Hitler is still active. Let's go after these home grown terrorists with as much gusto as we are with the so-called terrorists. I say "so-called" because if you do your homework there is MUCH evidnece to prove that 9/11 was an inside job.. that the terrorists of all terrorists sit in the oval office and the chair right next to him.

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C. L. Williams, Chicago, Illinois — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:11:06 GMT

I believe that Timothy McVeigh and his group were of the white supremist orientation. If you do not consider them terrorists, then you are both blind and ignorant. This country will destroy itself from within if we do not address all terrorist threats and stop the racism. We are all unwitting contributors to its demise unless we wake up.

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Linda Jacobs — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:18:24 GMT

Listen My Friends all of this talk about the FBI finding white-supremacist in the military training to become domestic terrorist and there are know arrest. Lets see, "How many people will they have to kill before they are any arrested"?

White-power groups recruiting from military

Jim Donner Hawthorne CA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:19:29 GMT

they are Investigating the crips, and the bloods and there should be no exception to anyone group or person to be under investigation if there intentions are to disrupt our way of life people are still people no matter what the color of their skin or religion or creed so for you to say that a bunch of lunatics burning crosses isn't as severe as the crips and bloods which are equally just as bad is ludacris.

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Nancy OKC, OK — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:19:51 GMT

Should I just 'jack' slap you people? This article just told you who was behind the Murrah Building bombing, 9/11, and the invasion of Mexico into the U.S.! The skin-heads of one of our Nazi groups here in Okla was clearly behind the Murrah bombing. There is all kinds of evidence, and some of their members are employees of the FBI. That's why they didn't do their jobs. Duh. George Bush got nervous after 9/11 and came here (Okla.) to get re-assurance from his co-conspirators. The mideast connection logically came from Bush who did buisness with bin laden for YEARS!!!!!!! Duh, again. Bin Laden and his crew who ALSO got training for free courtesy of our GOVERNMENT officials. Who's alibi was that it was needed in the name of our CIA! Duh, triple. Okla. also recently entered a bill seceding from the Federal gov.....uh-huh. It wasn't for POOR folks and SLAVE-WAGERS! Ain't no puzzle workers in this bunch, is there? There are a portion of rich Repubican gov. Reps, working for and with rich men like the owners of some of the biggest businesses in Okla. You figure out who they are....not hard. But I'm not naming them and although they won't like it, they can't say I named them......"I have met the enemy; and he is US"-Pogo....

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Dennis W — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:31:15 GMT

I servered over 20 years in the ARMY and I have seen some of these groups. Robert Stonerock, where have you been. FT Bragg had a big problem with these groups. Did you forget about the white extremists who killed that BLACK couple? Lets stop trying to make the military look so clean and address the problem.

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Uees12@msn.com — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:40:38 GMT

This is what happens when our children does not receive a well rounded education. We must teach them the importance of living together of dying apart. Let's be more careful to take heed to the warning of the Apostle Paul in Romans 1:28-29.
Matthews Thomas, San Antonio, TX

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Rachel, Ft Worth, Texas — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:50:57 GMT

Actually, the FBI has a history of monitoring and taking action against white supremicist groups, and not all of it has been legal. While I don't think any race is superior to any other, I DO believe that we all have the right to believe as we choose, and we need to be careful in our celebration of the FBI's actions against any group of people, because not all of the people they've targeted in the past have deserved the fate they recieved at the hand of our wonderful government. Freedom should include the freedom to dissent without fear.

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b58hustle cwhite50@hotmail.com — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:53:31 GMT

The Crips, bloods, Latin kings and Mexican mafia are not dedicated hate groups. They are criminal organizations.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Adam, Dover, NH — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:57:51 GMT

The sushi at United on 50th street is really good. You all should try it out.

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Help us, America — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:04:29 GMT

This story is nothing more than a plant so that they can go after supposed blue eyed blond haired "terrorists". This is what is going to be used to take more of our civil liberties away. You people need to wake up to the real threat to the American way of life....it is the loss of your freedom to "protect" you from a phantom enemy that DOES NOT EXIST.

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passing by — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:11:57 GMT

Bloods, Crips are a Black Power group? WOW!!!... What an idiot!....Anyhow....Good to see that there are groups that monitor these things....News worthy?...Hardly!...I agree with the poster that this whole article is grasping at straws. 203 out of millions won't keep me up at night.

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Nelson, Gifu City, Japan — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:15:19 GMT

I am a caucasian USMC veteran and I enjoyed serving my 4 years with people from all over the country. We are a real full-spectrum branch of the service and we are working too hard to pay attention to some trivial crap like "what color is the guy next to me". We had a saying, "he's a dark-green Marine" or "he's a light-green Marine".
I learned a lot from all of my comrades about how to get along with people.

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Chad Levell, Dayton, Ohio — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:19:48 GMT

Black power groups like the Crips and Bloods do the same. By ten times more.
John Doe Vacaville Ca (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:49 PM)

To be fair, There is a big difference between 'Black Power' groups and 'Street Gangs', thank you.

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T Ralphael, Charlotte, NC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:42:38 GMT

D Deatherage, the burning crosses are less of a threat to you because there's less of a chance of you ending up attached to one.

For some reason there's a perception that the Black community supports the Crips and Bloods. Much like the problem of under-educated Caucasians being susceptable to joining radical groups, likewise under-educated Blacks and Latinos have a greater chance of joining a gang.

The fact is that the average working class African-American is not in favor of either.

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Ronald Redden - Wherever, USA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:49:10 GMT

Wow, alot of attention paid to Crips and Bloods but I guess none of the educated/ opininated folks here have ever heard of the "AB's"? These good-standing citizens RUN many of the penitentiary's across America. A note to the ignorant: AB stands for 'Arian Brotherhood'.

Even though I grew up in L.A. my concern isn't with the street or penitentiary gangs that run and train these lost souls but with the 'Institutional' gangs that plague US citizens - such as the Prosecuting Attorneys & Police Departments (who are ALWAYS anti poor, anti female and anti people of color - by the way, which leaves who?), private businesses, educational institutions and other "civic" organizations such as your local Chamber of Commerce, PTA, or Better Business Bureaus who unfortunately perpetuate and shape public policy.

These influential groups have NEVER favored true equality nor promoted any other non lilly-white male, cultures or values (sorry). Sad part is that they're still alive and well. Don't beleive me? Go to your local golf course and see how many women hold prominent positions or are even allowed (token) membership into these country clubs. Or research how many of the Fortune 500 companies have female or minority CEO's - are ALL women or minorities with experience and advanced degrees stupid? I'll bet the single smartest person you've ever met in business isn't a white male although many, many are.

As comedian Paul Mooney so poignantly stated: "America has a 'better-than' system" that implies that young is inherently better-than old, rich is better-than poor, male is better-than female, white is better-than black (or any other color for that matter), educated is better-than uneducated, skinny is better-than fat, more is better-than less, physically strong is better than physically weak, immoral is better-than moral (if not, then why does America champion girl on girl sex?), etc.

You get the point...I hope. Evolution or death.

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B. Harrington, South Carolina — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:54:09 GMT

I did a hitch in the Navy and got out honorably. I'll tell you that it doesn't matter the color of the skin of the man covering your back. You just care that he/she is there, covering your back. There are also dirtbags of every race/color/ethnicity. There cannot be room for racism in the military.

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Brett Newark, New Jersey — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:02:28 GMT

Funny Story .....Of course the media didn't report that Gangs such as the Bloods and Crips have long since penetrated the U.S. Military to the point where they had to ban official photos and create Task Forces to deal with them costing more tax dollars. Make no mistake none of these groups have any place in the U.S. Military

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dave ngu — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:11:58 GMT

only time people of all races come together is when their is a disaster...the way our planet is unevolving and the racist attitudes of so many people...cannot wait for the next disaster just to see all the racist cowards act friendly.

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Walter Drumm, Fayetteville, PA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:17:27 GMT

One of the principal sources from which this story was derived has to be taken with a huge grain of salt. The SPLC has a long record of being biased against the military; some time ago I read in their literature the indictment of the so-called "back-door draft" in effect, citing the use of inactive reserve personnel and tour extensions as proof. Get real. These people ar led by the same idiot who in his book Rising Storm said that law enforcement personnel should be forbidden from serving in the National Guard in their communities out of fear of them being influenced by the so-called "militia movement". The few wingnuts who do sympathize with or join WS groups are usually inclined that way prior to enlisting or are the types who have trouble assimiliating o military life. Simply put, they are the screwups who can't get it right and don't learn enough to do anything but hurt themselves. So instead of painting all white military personnel with such a broad and infinitely unfair brush, how about we concentrate on fighting racial/ethnic bias and extremism in the uniformed services in all of its forms. As a veteran I recall seeing blatant references to groups such as the Bloods, Crips, Latin Kings, etc., yet the vaunted Southern Poverty Law Center doesn't mention them. Perhaps it's because these are groups related to racial/ethnic minorities, and God forbid Morris Dees and his flunkies prosecute them with the same zeal. That would be unbiased and impartial-God/Allah/Buddha/The Great Pumpkin forbid!

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O'Malley?/ Portland, OR — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:28:31 GMT

In response to Christian Adair's comment: Get your facts straight. True skinheads are not white supremacists. I know skins that are black, skins that are Hispanic, and skins that are Japanese and they all get along. So anyway, get your facts straight before you make statements like that.

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Steve — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:32:12 GMT

Just remember that anti-Jewish semtiment in Germany started in Germany and look what it turned into. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing -Edmund Burke"

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Pamela/Portland, OR — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:54:53 GMT

An educational moment to an underinformed person. Crips and Bloods are not black power groups. Only a total idiot would even say that. Crips and Bloods only terrorize, exploit and kill black people. They don't gang up on lone white people and kick their skulls in, burn crosses on lawns or otherwise hate people that look different from them. They are drug dealers and drug pushers. Not hate mongers and black supremists.

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Mike, San Antonio, TX — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:09:39 GMT

"these hate-monger, white-trash, uneducated rednecks will take a shot at our would-be president. Even in parts of Southwestern Pennsylvania, I can see & hear the anti-black sentiment brewing amongst the undereducated white population of the area. My advice to them, go play in traffic blindfolded cause your racisit attitudes make me ashamed to say I'm white.
Brendan, Pittsburgh, PA (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:03 PM)"

Brendan, you must REALLY think highly of yourself! You're just so smart and well educated!I am from Pittsburgh originally Brendan, so you are talking about my friends and family here. Why do you assume that racism is somehow related to being undereducated? Is it because you assume that an educated person would necessarily agree with you. It seems to me that a truly educated person would realize that people in general are prone to all kinds of thinking, and that even well educated people can disagree with what we believe in. I'm not trying to defend racism here; I think that it is disgusting. But I find your attitude equally disgusting. It exemplifies perfectly what conservative pundits mean when they use the term "liberal elite." But, I guess maybe I need to go to a "re-education camp" to get my politics straight!

By the way, why is it so important that we could elect a black president? So what if, given this "historic opportunity," we elect the white guy again? I appreciate the symbolism in it, but I don't particularly think that that symbolism is a sufficient rational for choosing who will lead the country. Having an inept black president is still having an inept president and I don't trust that Obama's level of governing experience has prepared him for the hardest job in the world. I'm white and I'm NOT voting for Obama, not because I don't want a black president, but because I don't think he is good for my future and the future of this country. I'll pass on the chance to make history thanks.

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jason ray / Shawnee, OK — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:12:12 GMT

Okay reading all of these statements is hillarious. You know what gets me is that people of color never are scared of Crips, Bloods, and god knows of what other GANGS exist here now. Guys we don't live in the era of horseback and burning crosses anymore so why is it when someone says SUPREMICY all of a sudden everyone gets offended? On the other hand when someone says GANGSTA or claim what set they're from people just overlook it. We live in a society where people use guns and do the math how many stories do you here of white extremist shooting anyone and oppose it to how many times you hear of a "gangbanger" shooting someone. So who is the real threat? I served in the military and have brothers in arms of all colors and i trust these people to defend any threat of attack on my country from FOREIGN or DOMESTIC sides so whatever happens i know i will be on the RIGHT side the side that defends my COUNTRY not the people in it!!!! And one more thing you want a story to write EXPLAIN WHY WE WOULD EXLECT A PRESIDENT(regaurdless of race or creed) THAT WON'T EVEN SALUTE THE FLAG OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED UPON!!!!!THAT IS THE FLAG OF OUR FORFATHERS, AND IT REPRESENTS THOSE WHO DIED IN WARS. ITS NOT A FLAG OF RACE OR CREED BECAUSE THOSE WHO SERVE UNDERSTAND THAT ITS THAT OF FREEDOM!!!!!!!

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DMAN, LAS VEGAS, NV — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:28:40 GMT

These people can get scary. But why don't we look at some of the root causes. There is a real under-current amonght poor and working class whites that they have been sacrificed at the exspense of conciliation. About 3/4 of the poor in America are now white yet whites are just around the corner from becomming less than half the population. Though I'd never agree with any org. that supports violence against another race simply based on race, It wasn't George Bush, Al Gore, or Bill Clinton's kids who were sacrafice by the likes of affirmative action. It's been to this point the Poor and working class white kids of mothers who work as waitresses (No disrespect) or fathers who load trucks (No disrespect) who have been handed the bill for past injustices. Again, Though I don't agree with the method, But It's quite naive to wonder why some drift towards these type of org.'s. Too often we try to solve a problem yet we create a whole other problem with legislation, political correctness that often creates these un-intended consequences.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Alex Dutler, San Diego, California — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:09:50 GMT

"Anyone who is addicted belongs to their drug and not to themselves. They can not keep any promises or resolutions. Solve the drug problem and there won't be a gun problem...or a supremicist problem." Howard D. Reed /Midland, Texas 79701 (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:11 PM)

Hitler was a non-smoking and non-drinking vegetarian who advocated gun control. I don't see how you can find a causational element between drug addiction, gun violence, racism, and supremacist groups.

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John Doe, military active duty — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:16:39 GMT

There are numerous published and unpublished FBI investigations on organized criminal and supremacist groups. The sad fact of the matter is that there will always be criminals in every society. The question becomes will that society ensure safety and security of it's citizens or allow corruption and power hungry "special interest" groups turn the tide. Better education and family values is the best way to battle ignorance and immoral ideologies. Unfortunately, we're losing that battle in the U.S.

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Aaron, Seattle, WA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:28:20 GMT

"This is a scary, and possibly real, threat to the possibillity of electing the first bi-racial president in our Nation's History. It's my biggest fear if (and in my hopes, when) Barak Obama is elected that these hate-monger, white-trash, uneducated rednecks will take a shot at our would-be president. Even in parts of Southwestern Pennsylvania, I can see & hear the anti-black sentiment brewing amongst the undereducated white population of the area. My advice to them, go play in traffic blindfolded cause your racisit attitudes make me ashamed to say I'm white."

And you call the skinheads the hate group. Be careful for you may become what you despise most.

The skinheads do not concern me and I am Jewish. What concerns me most is how does the F.B.I go about 'monitoring' groups in the United States who are not on the terrorist watch group?
If they can do this too the least of us then they will do it too the most of us. Who's next? Latino groups? Black groups? Any group the government disagree's with?

This is nothing more than secret police behavior.

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FP West Palm Beach ,. Florida — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:44:20 GMT

This is old story. The FBI for a very long time has watched internal subversive groups. From the KKK, John Birch, NAZI, Panthers, Five Percenters(bet you never even heard of that one), BLA and Skins Heads. Yes the JDL and Southern Poverty Law Center Southern is always watching internal racist groups.
For those that don't know, the FBI, Western Watch,ATF and State agency do watch the Bloods and Crips as much as they do Motor Cycle Gangs, if you want to see some real pros at violence and crime. Many street gangs do not hold a candle to them.

Don't be naive that no one is watching them. As for melting pot of the service. How not true. Sorry 23 year guy. I served to(1/504 ABN to the 1/75th). I met a lot of ignorant racist, and odd they came from areas that had little contact with other races

As for those getting in. Recent Miami Herald report ran story on Street Gang members joining the military, to street gang members that were slipping into main stream. Those that did not have criminal records possibly working in the health care and law enforcement. Don't think all are uneducated thugs. Yes, not all skin heads to street gang members look the part or act it. This was based on interviews with members of based on intelligence and Gang units from Miami Metro Dade, Broward Sheriffs , Palm Beach County Sheriff ,Los Angles Sheriff's Department, Fort Lauderdale, Philadelphia, New York City, Los Angeles Police Departments and Florida Department of Law Enforcement, New Jersey, New York and Illinois State Police. They are all watching

I suggest some of you watch Gang World on the History Channel....It is big wake up call.

Besides ex military.Twenty five years on NYPD and now with BSO , gives me me more inside look on this side of life. Yes, agencies to share their intelligence. Lot more go on in big city departments the just patrolling the street.

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Glenn, Bridgeton, NJ — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:47:04 GMT

I agree with DD from L Br, NJ about not wanting extremists, but what do you expect? I'm sick of hearing about various groups problems. Many of their families are dysfunctional, and you see the results in the papers every day. You can't say anything about it, or you'll be called 'intolerant'. There are, you know, black extremists, too. You'll never see in-depth reporting about it in the news, though.We've all seen the film clips of Rev. Wright, and how he wipped up the hatred of his parishioners. You don't think that's the only church where it goes on, do you? Wasn't the CR Movement about inclusiveness? Wright's hate-filled speeches don't sound like he wants to be included with anything American or white. Until we can have a dialogue which can include criticism of any group and their responsibilities to clean up their own act, we'll continue to see extremists groups grow. The double-standard(no criticism allowed)which applies to some is obvious in the media. Why isn't the Political Black Caucus considered racist? I am telling you, vote the Dems in this fall and you'll see more race-based legislation enacted. The special interest lobby's will line up to get their share. What do you think will be the result with regards to the racial divide? We are creeping towards Socialism, and the line between the Dems and Socialism is becoming very blurred. The funny thing is, in the township where I live, there is no real issue between various races. That's because the people who live here are here because they economically 'can' and socially 'want' to be here. Real equality, I'd say. Much better than the forced 'affordable' housing mandates (there's your socialism) we see. Bring people from Gov. housing projects to my neighborhood and we'll have drug and gang problems, too.

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joecapa@gmail.com Bethesda, MD — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:48:57 GMT

There are already white supremacy groups and individuals present in the Navy. And they have existed with impunity for years. Worst, the leadership are aware of these people, who are mostly in the officer and higher enlisted group.
And surprisingly they include the women gender leadership, that is why they get away with their abuses.

And you have to submit your grievance through them and up the change of command. Most often they get off easy because of their seniority and position in the organization.

I know this first hand because I have worked closely with this people. And survived, and am working with the Army now.

Watch out if you are a minority and you will be assigned to NNMC, Bethesda.

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wdins@cebridge.net — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:51:31 GMT

in 1994 vI was in the military at FT. Riley, Ks. I was told by an Afican-american that the Bloods and Crips were putting people into the army to get Military training, and wre recuiting more people while in the army-- why has no one reported on that, We waste so much money against drugs, everyone that is envolved with selling,transporting,manufacturing, growing or taking illegal drugs should be shot on the spot, this country would be a better place, W dins,Bastrop, Tx.

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:58:31 GMT

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David R. USA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:31:56 GMT

Why is it in an election year with a black candadite, that this it brought out? If the government wants to waste valuable resources go ahead, but lets make it fair and go against all the white and black using the military for gain. And why isn't there a group to help them, the naacp hasn't said anything. Of course the crips and bloods have better laywers, and the fact the society can't say boo without the naacp saying we have to apologize.

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L. Bonilla — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:47:30 GMT

"White-supremacist groups have recruited 203 people ... according to a new report by the FBI."

OMG! How am I ever going to be able to sleep at night knowing that the greatest threat to the U.S. is a small minority of frightened pale-face people. Not Islamic jihadists. Not black liberation/power theology. Not Communists sympathizers/supporters. Not massive illegal immigration. Not power-hungry politicians...

It appears to me that any extremism coming from whites is a drop in the bucket compared to an ocean of other extremist groups who are getting a free pass by the media. The average ignorant Jane and Joe is duped into believing that whites are the problem since the media is silent about anti-white and anti-American groups in this country.

Cal Thomas just reported that the Islamic Saudi Academy in Alexandria, Virginia Continues to use textbooks that teach hatred of EVERYONE not of their specific brand of Islamic faith. And the US State Department turns a blind eye even though they continue to use a books that encourages jihad and martyrdom.

We have a presidential candidate [Obama] with a 20-year membership to a church whose leader (Rev Jeremiah Wright) is an unapologetic racist. Black Liberation Theology gets its doctrinal roots from Professor James Hal Cone. These BLT churches teach hatred of all things white--past, present, and future. Cone's 1969 opus, Black Theology and Black Power explains:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community.... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the DESTRUCTION of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Obama also recently told La Raza ("The Race"), a powerful Latino special interest group, that US law enforcement officers are *terrorists* and that communities that enforce immigrations laws are vigilantes. Oh, and he said that parents should make sure their children speak Spanish.

On YouTube Obama also said that he's going to disarm us. Russia and China will be his advisor/partner.

Bye, bye English. Bye, bye evil whites. Bye, bye country? Oh yeah, I'm really worried about these 203 people that this stupid article is trying to make hay with. Get a grip! We're surrounded by hungry wolves and the FBI is concerned about a few barking dogs? Almost laughable...almost.

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Eric Lincoln, NE — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:21:09 GMT

Just curious, but how many "people of color" joined or belong to the Nation of Islam? It is an extremist racist organization too. Oh, thats right, "people of color" cant be racist. My bad. Only when you complete fools realize that Louis Farrakhan, Jessee Jackson, and Al Sharpton are part of the problem will race relations ever change.

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helen aeos — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:24:02 GMT

white power, black power, latino power.
investigate.
right.
we need to be attacked by an alien armada so we can all unite and fight a common enemy. then maybe it will become clear that inside we are all the same.

except for you--you're a freak.
;P

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K, maryland — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:26:19 GMT

I was just talking about this whole white supremacy thing the other day and how they have lost their "terror" power from the times of when I was young. I totally agree that the crips, bloods, and the gang members coming from south america are the most real threat we face today. Although, just because we aren't seeing the kkk burning crosses or having their public parade crap doesn't mean they are trying to regroup. I hate all this. We are all Americans and the rest who don't like it here should just leave and find their home. True Americans, I hope, will finally get fed up with these gang members and anti american haters and stand up for ourselves.

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Joe, Wash DC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:28:36 GMT

Ok, first off the bloods and crips is a street gangs, How dumb can you be by calling them a black power group, they kill each other and sell drugs, you call that black power??? and the FBI has always monitored them for inter state trafficking so what do you mean fair play, and excuse me they so called nuts commit murder and armed robbery. They just dont meet and burn crosses

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Frank Price, Portland, Maine — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:30:21 GMT

Here we go again. The old MILITIA and White Power bogeymen thrust at us once again. Another Randy Weaver shooting or another WACO to be in the news in the near future?

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Joma Chicago, IL — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:36:31 GMT

Crips and Bloods are NOT "Black Power Groups." They are quite the opposite,and I would say are a greater threat to fellow black Americans than white supremacists these days. And they are routinely investigated by federal agencies for their drug trafficking (unfortunately not so much for their terrorizing of the black community). They should label all the criminal organizations and hate groups as terrorists. As a point of history the "Black Power" movement was undermined by FBI programs such as COINTELPRO.

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E. Smith Canton, Ohio — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:37:38 GMT

"Gangs" are certainly terrible, but if you look at those that have been attacked by gangs the majority is other gang members. An organization based on hate will attack any and all unsuspecting individuals or group. There is a difference. One isn't worst than the other, so it's stupid to attempt a valid argument as if there is. To do so makes you look stupid.

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F. Douglas, NC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:46:13 GMT

Well at least the white-power groups here in the U.S are not as strong as they are in other countries, such as Russia. Only then should we have a real concern.

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Bill Randall, Seattle, WA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:51:15 GMT

to jim in dallas....do you realize that our own president has violates the constitution on several occasions already?

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Carl, Leonia, NJ — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:53:12 GMT

Well it's the same old song. The Frei Corp recruited in Germany among veterans of WWI formed the backbone of Hitler's SA. The fragile Weimar constitution couldn't contain these future butchers and Historys onslaught. War and Hate breeds War and Hate- a simple timeless equation. This equation is squared by government arrogance, lies, and shoot-from-the-hip foreign policy. Freedom Loving Patriots be vigilant. The Fox is in the hen house!

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Traveller — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:58:36 GMT

I'm retired military. I do not agree with the white extremist groups. I do however, consistantly think of how much our government has wasted our resouces for the advancement of big businesses and politicians. Examples: IRS, state and federal in my mind are roadside robbers and illegal and unconstitutional at best. Also, the energy crisis. Don't expect us to be so nieve that we don't know that alternate energy is at our disposal. If not for politicians and big industry (oil companies), we'd have those resources available to us long ago. I think all Americans are very tired of business as usual and are not as gullable as our govenment would like to think...maybe it's them that's gullable when they think another revolution is no longer an option. Keep running this country the way it's been run in the last decade and the future will be a re-run of the good ole Boston Tea Party at an extreme. I'm not sure right now that I wouldn't support a revolution if it was one strictly to resurrect our rights to rule our government instead of our government ruling us. A government of the people, by the people, for the people. Does that ring any bells. So I tell the government this, don't be so cocky that you think you have everything in check...listening to our communications or not. Read what the definition is of a state run government and see how close we are now if not already there. As they say, Americans are a patient people, but when the patience runs out, we are also vigelant and powerful. Never underestimate the will of the people. If I sound a little angry in this comment, it's because I am as is most AMERICANS!!

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Amber V., Pittsburgh, PA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:00:57 GMT

This is truly a non-issue & we're focused on trivialities while the true racial problems in this country are being ignored.

As a southwestern Pennsylvanian, I'd just like to say that I'm sick & tired of the cult of Obama crying racism every time an intelligent voter declares the refusal to vote for the LEAST qualified candidate who has ever run for this office.

Race has nothing to do with it for his critics & it shouldn't matter to his supporters, either. If you support a candidate because of their race, you are unequivocally an ignorant racist as surely as any Klansman.

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Wallace, Washington, DC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:17:37 GMT

It does not surprise me, that white supremist groups are taking advantage of this opportunity to recruit from the military or Fox cable news listeners. If you read any blog on Fox new website you will find some of the most hateful and racist people since the original KKK. One definite element they all seem to share in common beside their obvious racism, is ignorance. They are too ignorant to realize, that it require more than a few guns and explosives, to change the dynamics of this country. And any attempts they make will result in their own distruction, because the FBI as well as most people of some degree of intelligence,are aware that all it requires is a case of cheap beer, and ten members will tell everything, the rest of cowards will sing just as loud when separated the pack, they've never possessed the mental or physical strength to stand alone.

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James L, Auburn, AL — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:25:55 GMT

And the point of "even in southwestern Pennsylvania" is? It is unfathomable there are racists in southwestern Pennsylvania. The real story here is that the SPLC carted it's now one directional mission back out and got in the news. It is a stretch. Try referring cases to them for things that won't get them in the paper.

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willard flagle bridgewater,nj — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:28:18 GMT

Extremeists and supremicists come in every color and from every ethnic or religious background.But political correctness will only allow this article to be printed because the group is white.

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DC, Lafayette, La. — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:31:28 GMT

Fanaticism in any form is dangerous, whether it be racist fanaticism, religious fanaticim, environmental fanaticism...whatever! Fanatics worldwide will be the death of us all!

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Expelliarmus, OH — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:39:19 GMT

I'm not surprised.

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Brad San Antonio, TX — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:42:52 GMT

Biased... other minority gangs have a much larger presence in the military and are much more violent outside of the military. And since when are white supremacists "Radical Right Wingers"? Why does the author try to equate them to conservatives? These groups may be fascist in nature... but so are the radical animal rights activists and Eco-terrorists.

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Jim O, Colorado Springs — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:47:07 GMT

Give me a break. These fringe element groups have been recruiting military, as well as other occupations for over 150 years, and for the most part they are relatively insignificant when it comes to crime statistics in the US. If you REALLY want to see hate-mongering criminals that recruit in EVERY facet of society, just look at the Latino gangs in California like the Latin Lords etc, Black gangs like the Crips and Bloods, that have paraylized Detroit and other major cities, the MS13 monsters that recruit in the 1000's and have murdered 100's of people etc. Don't try to insult my intelligence with a sample of 203 possible military recruits to supremicist organizations-like they're going to disrupt elections, destroy the morale fabric of this country, or assassinate Obama - morons!! The only "hate" speech I've heard reference Obama lately has come from Jesse Jackson.

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Travis G, Tallahassee, FL — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:50:34 GMT

Still playing find the boogy man? The "White Extremists" will never do any real harm...

Howard D. Reed /Midland, Texas 79701 (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:11 PM)

This statement is totally dependent upon what you consider to be "real harm." If ANY extremist takes even a single life then they will be considered to have done "real harm" in the eyes of the person they have killed. Not to mention the loss of that feeling of securiyt felt by that that person's family, friends, community.

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C.J. Gelfand New York, NY — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:53:02 GMT

Hate groups form when disadvantaged people are routinely ignored and treated as disposable by the powers that be. Timothy McVeigh is a perfect example--after serving his country, he came back here and couldn't get a job despite his qualifications. If our government does not come to the aid of former servicemen and women after they return, I'm afraid we will see more hate movements. And Bush & Company are not helping at all.
CJG, New York City

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LKamkar, Branson, MO — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:59:12 GMT

I am afraid that the White extremist recruitment will escalate as you we continue to see more Muslim, Blacks and Hispanics complaining of discrimination. These extremist feel they are the minority now and what they have always feared has begun to take place. I too fear that if Obama becomes President that his life may be in danger. I think that these fringe groups warrant watching and I appreciate this issue coming to light.

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Xavier, Scottersberg, KY — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:00:19 GMT

" What if anything is being done about the known members of these groups who are in the active military? C. G., Denver, CO (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:55 PM)"

What should be done? They're getting the same kind of firearm's training as everyone else (you do have to do basic training). Chances are the true extremists are too stupid to make any special MOS, like combat engineers. Certainly they're never going to get a top secret security clearance. Just give them a gun and body armor and throw up into an ECP or a guard tower as sniper/IED bate.

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George, Delaware — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:00:56 GMT

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sd fultz, Dallas, TX — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:03:08 GMT

Wow, we are really falling for the if your not with us then your a terrorists line.Nothing will be a crime anymore, everything will be a terrorist act against the State.

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greg — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:03:10 GMT

Sagi P., I take my hat off to you! Hate is hate and it does my heart good to see that someone else has the same type feelings as I.

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JMS, Ft Lee, VA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:12:39 GMT

It's 2008 people and this conversation is so tired; when are we going to get it together as a nation? I'm a Soldier, with over 24 yrs and I've been stationed all over this country, Europe, Kuwait and Iraq and I'm here to tell you: the world sees us as Americans - period. Being proud of one's culture is a good thing - just not at the expense of another's. Remember great nations crumble from within. God Bless America is my continued prayer.

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Some Random Guy — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:29:02 GMT

203 "supposed" vets out of the tens of millions in the country? Why not try to make a conspiracy about "right handed" Americans.. afterall, I bet they make up a far larger percentage of these groups.

These guys are scum, without question.. but that does not change the fact that they have a RIGHT to believe that way if they want.

But what really gets me is the media will jump on something as trivial as this.. but they won't touch the, much wider spread, racism involved in the support that black Americans have given Obama.

Inventing a conspiracy over 200 racists but ignoring the actions of 20,000,000 is good journalism?

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A Forde, Elizabeth, NJ — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:35:29 GMT

The Crips and Bloods are criminals (drug, dealers, murderers). They have "NO" interest or concept of black power or white power. There only interest is "making money" by any means necessary. This is very different from preaching racial supremacy which they (gangs) do not do, or killing people because of the color of their skin. They'll kill you for your watch or sneakers or whatever you have thats expensive whether you are black or white. Its all about the money to them not your skin color or your religion. So stop twisting it. This is about "white" supremist groups who kill because they feel they are superior. Period.

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Brant McKeehan, London, Kentucky — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:46:39 GMT

Let's all hope that that the Deptarment of Defense is using this knowledge to infiltrate these hate-mongers on a bid to bring them down and choke them out of exsistence once and for all. We can at least hope..right?

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LaurieK in NC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:48:14 GMT

To Brendan in Penn, PA. I hear you, however, being born and raised in Michigan, and at the age of 35, coming to live in the south (NC) I can tell you that from my experiences in MI, CO and in NC, it isn't only "rednecks or undereducated" people who are filled with hate or belong to hate groups. I can say WITH certainty (I was once I reporter, etc) that hate lives in the minds of many and small minds are never in short supply. May I offer one sliver of advice? Grouping people together, simply because they are from the south, calling them undereducated and rednecks or white trash is also very small minded and racist. I'm not saying you are that way. I know subjects like this make one's blood boil, I know anything about KKK activity unnerves me!!!! Just be careful not to follow their lead and allow yourself to become as hateful as them. Don't let them win and turn you against portions of YOUR country, k? There are many many people here in the south, good people who far outnumber the undereducated, white trash, rednecks you refer to. (I'm a caucasion) But, just like it is wrong for anyone to call a jewish person a vile name or a person of color a vile name, Brendan, it's just as wrong for you or I to refer to "Anyone" as white trash or a redneck OR undereducated (or ugly, fat, etc) they're all wrong, because they breed hate. Even if YOU know in what context you meant it and you're angry and need to blow off steam, others who are more impressionable (children, etc) that we all have a responsibility to teach by OUR example may pick up on these terms and deem them OKAY to use. Not cool. Not good. Even tho people who CHOOSE to associate themselves with the KKK may use horrid terms, those of us who feel we are NOT undereducated and do fight the good fight have SUCH a huge responsibility to be very careful about the words we allow to flow from our lips. While I feel ya.. and understand exactly how upset you are, I'm the same way, I can't stand the idea of anyone trying to poison our children's minds or recruit our young men and women from the military to do hateful things... there are other, more intelligent ways to go about effecting "change" in that area! (wink) Call your local FBI branch and ask them how you can help. If there is anything you can do or collect for them, they'll let you know. We all have to work together.. and not let people like KKK members make US as hateful as they appear to be, k? I am not trying to beat up on you. I just want you to re-read what you typed and critique your own words with an open mind and grow from that learning experience, that's all. Don't lower yourself to they're level.
God Bless (or NOT/// if your not a believer, never want to offend)heh heh... take care

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klyph — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:48:56 GMT

i dont know.seems to me you people arnt paying atteneion to what your reading here. you call people names and call them stupid. guess you didnt read the part bout them recruting US solders. the strongest smartest solders in the world. how stupid is that. if your lookin for professional fighters you certainly dont hire college grads. .think bout it.

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A.C Hamilton, Providenciales, T.C.I [hamcotci@hotmail.com] — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:55:02 GMT

If the FEDS are RIGHT, it hurts my heart to believe that the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA whom I LOVEand RESPECT as the greatest country on EARTH is still BUGGED DOWN with RACISM.AMERICA PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW ABAMA TO BE ASSASINATED.I AM NOT AN AMERICAN FROM THE UNITED STATES. But a concerned neighbour.I enjoyed living and studing in AMERICA for many years [1952 to1959]

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Chris Taylor — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:58:40 GMT

This is funny. I am from the UK. We have a lot of skinheads there. But here is a key difference.
Where I come from, you are only considered truly white if you are from Western Europe. If you are from Eastern European countries, you are seen as something less than pure if you will.
But here in the US, I see that every 'white' person is eligible to be in the so-called skinhead groups.
Can you imagine the look on the 'white' skinhead in America, if you tell him that he would not even be considered fully white in Europe.
Gets to show you how this whole superiority thing is something people came up with to feel good about themselves. At the end of the day, there is always someone who thinks he/she is better than you, no matter who you think you are.

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Chief Sanders, Houston, Texas — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:04:44 GMT

The reason I fight is for all Americans. If white extremists groups would like to help me fight for our freedom that's OK. I believe that once you are in combat with that person you vow to hate you will soon see the error of your ways. Also degrading skin heads won't help; instead try to locate the source of their hate. Maybe people of color can play a more pro-active role in minimizing the growth of such organizations. Thank you. (18 years of active duty service and black)

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Nate/Chicago, IL — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:05:10 GMT

The Crips, the Bloods, the NAACP, BET all these are every bit as racist as the groups mentioned in the article. I am not advocating white power groups, but I am not ashamed of being white either, and that is how we are being conditioned to act by the media and PC power brokers. I owned no one and owe no one. Get over it. Move on.

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Jeffrey Allen — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:07:11 GMT

this is a scary developement , these people are a part of Mr. Bushes , Democracy strategy. and how well will that work , when the people you are trying to help, you hate. how does that work Mr. Bush. we still have a lot of work to do. and yes we all are from the same God. God is one , beliefs are different.

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LaurieK NC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:08:42 GMT

Sagi P, in Boise, ID
Hmmmm, I'm hoping Brendan, Pittsburg, PA not PENN, PA like I wrote..oops my bad...(mistake)... I'm hoping he was just blowing off steam and voicing his opinion... try not to beat up on him too much, offer some kind advice. I try to remember a couple of things in my life... ways to behave, etc... one of them is this ( and it sounds like you may be someone who can relate ) Do all things with love....
I mean, we're all here on this Earth together, at this moment in time.. that's amazing in itself, and IMHO, (In my humble opinion) I believe it's so important that we all do our best to do things like: teach with love, use caring words, etc... and as parents, discipline with love...etc...etc.. you get my point... and even give advice with love, invisioning someone as your brother or sister, because basically we're all bro's and sister's of the earth, or God's children, etc.. whatever you believe and hold as your foundation... either way... just as good, caring human beings.. we need to be good teachers (and students) of our fellow man.
If we simply point fingers and point out what they did wrong... we're not trying to teach them how to SEE what to do right the next time. HA.. I'm no authority, just a middle class working american who cares about not only American's but ALL human beings. EVEN the KKK members. Because something made them go in the direction they did... and if I had MY way.. I'd try to reach any of them I could to try to effect change in a positive, loving way. Yeah... I know you're probobley saying... uh huh, and they'd shoot you where you stood. heh.. Well, I didn't say I'd be on their turf when I tried it.. (wink) I'm just saying... It's tantamount for us as caring human beings to keep open minds and hearts so that we can try in some small way every day to effect positive changes in our world. Your message has touched, who KNOWS how many people already.
What legacy do you want your words to leave? One that simply points out Brendan's issue's with hate (as you said), most likely people do that for themselves with their own words.
OR would you rather have your words leave a positive impact that MAY (can't guarantee they WILL) make Brendan rethink what he said and cause him to go about things in a different way? Also... do you want your words to say to others... I'm pissed at Brendan for using hateful words... and possibley being as small minded as the KKK or ... do you want your words to deliever MORE than just that?
Ultimately, it's up to you. (To all of us to THINK about the words we say before we allow our words to just fall from our mouths) I'm guilty of not thinking before I've spoken.... heh... for sure!!! But when I reflect for a few before I put pen to paper.. or fingers to keys in this case :) usually, things turn out a bit better.
IE: I could have just slammmmmed Brendan for using what I might refer to as unintelligent words or phrases to get his point across, but that would that really do? What positive changes would that effect??? I'm sure you get my point.
Take Care

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Dr John, Somewhere USA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:10:54 GMT

Its a shame that almost every ethnic & gender group have an advocate, except the straight white male. What else do you expect White men are sick of the reverse discrimination and the special treatment other groups get. Sometimes it takes a revolution to even the odds. I love they way everyone uses the words Redneck, whitie, Cracker, Grey Bone,etc. But never use th "N" word which has absolutely nothing to do with color. Its a fact that people of "White" color are losing their identities, ie: interacial marriages creating mixed ethnic groups. Maybe the white man, as the Indians do not want to loose their heritage and turn to White Supremacist groups for security.

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Lillian from Cleveland — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:15:54 GMT

This is to all those bloggers who honestly believe Crips and Bloods are represented by only Black people. Its a clear day people. Land! Believe it or not, such groups are quite diverse. But you would have to actually know about it to really speak of intellegence about it.

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Tim Thomas, Pittsburgh PA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:16:25 GMT

"I am certainly not advocating for the white power extremists, but turn about is fair play, what would be the uproar if it came out the FBI investigated the Crips and the Bloods, both of which are far more serious of a threat to most Americans than a group of nuts that meet on farms and burns crosses."

....hmm you seem to be a little out of the loop. The Federal Government has indicted any number of gangs (like the Crips and Bloods, etc) under the Federal RICO act. There are gang units within the FBI already.

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makilo511 — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:20:37 GMT

these people are terrorist more dangerous than osama bin laden and his organization combine.
fbi needs to monitor their movement we dont want
to see another truck blowing down building like timothy mcveigh did in oklahoma these people have hate agenda in their sick mind

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Michael Allison, Spokane WA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:28:46 GMT

I'd like to chime in on the far more serious threat of gang members 'infiltrating' (for lack of a better word) the military in order to acquire combat training and also to recruit for their set.

I realize the Army needs warm bodies in uniforms to fight two wars. But, is it really wise to fight terrorism by training thugs and gangsters in the arts of war?

The idea of armed gangs of dope-fueled ex-soldiers roaming the streets of the US is more than just a little disconcerting to me. I'd much rather deal with a bunch of clowns that can't even hold a pistol properly than battle-tested soldiers and marines any day. Most gang bangers can't hit the broad side of a barn with a whole clip of ammo and we should do nothing to change that fact. Training them to fight effectively sounds like like the sort of short-sighted 'expedient' lunacy we've grown accustomed to since Dubya moved in to the white house.

But what about the skin-heads?

Well, let's look at the facts. Racist hate groups have pretty much lost their relevance, as well as their membership base, over the last seven years. Personally, I like to think that trend will continue in the future. As the very real problems we face increase every day get worse, these groups' influence and capablilities will continue to ebb. Simnply put, it seems people are too busy worrying about war and global warming and the economy and $4 a gallon gas to spend a lot of time getting drunk, listening to loud crappy music, and blaming everything on people of color. Fortunately, skin-heads and other groups haven't really tried to sell 9/11 as being caused by blacks or jews. And, if they have, it looks like nobody's buying it.

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Anonymous, Far Rockaway, NY — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:35:30 GMT

Black power groups like the Crips and Bloods do the same. By ten times more.
John Doe Vacaville Ca (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:49 PM)

Just for everyone's information (those who don't know) the Crips and Bloods DO NOT stand for black power and they are not in the same league as white supremacist groups. The Crips and Bloods are gangs who only care about themselves; they could care less about their communities. Check your facts or state that this is your opinion, John Doe from Vacaville, CA!

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Kimberly, Albany, Georgia — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:35:31 GMT

Wow D. Deatherage how can you say one form of gang life is worse than another. The Crips and Bloods are not a good thing yes. But white power extremists aren't either and speaking from a black woman's prospective white power extremists groups are a big threat. Just like white people feel threated by "Crips and Bloods". Black people feel the same way about "white power extremists groups". Because, somewhere in our past black people were affected by them...our ancestors were.

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john doe/Seattle, Washington — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:36:37 GMT

when did the crips and bloods become black power groups last I checked they mostly killed blacks and each other

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Debbie G., Ft Lauderdale, Florida — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:38:24 GMT

We really need to know what is going on in our society, irrespective of the fact that the FBI has only found 203 recruits.. I applaud them for bringing the matter to our attention. Changes are there are more they are not aware of. Not going to get into any racial rants but I am a black person living in Florida and see prejudice each and every day, we also lived in Boston, Mass and you would be amazed of the attitudes of some of those residents.
I wish for once that persons would stop judging others by the color of their skin and start by judging them by their deeds.

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JR, Montana — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:41:54 GMT

There are always a few estranged w/in any group that go farther than what the groups true beliefs are. The KKK has existed for decades, yet have they, as a group, created a worry for Americans in recent decades - not that I'm aware of & I live in the NW. Every group has their beliefs & that's fine, it's when they act on them there's an issue. The gangs do & Al Quaida has inflicted pain on many people, that is why they are in the spotlight - they want to draw attention to themselves, to be feared. This country is hell-bent on scaring it's citizens into believing what the gov't thinks is the biggest threat. Perhaps we should protect our own soil first instead of trying to save the world, b/c as we attempt to, everyone is sneaking in the back door - buying us off one piece at a time. As it is now, we are not viewed as the strongest nation in the world so no one is afraid of us anymore - perhaps we should focus inward & rebuild our own strength instead of trying to out muscle others.

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J.R. Hohnson — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:48:19 GMT

Why do people keep comparing the Crips and the Bloods to white supremacist groups. The crips and the bloods are not out to "get white people" or to further "the black cause". They are gangs of troubled people where 95% of their violence is conducted on fellow blacks.

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jv/Cincinnati, Ohio — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:50:50 GMT

Thank God someone is watching these hateful bigots. All true Americans need to be aware of this threat to civilization and refute it strongly for what it is-Unamerican! jj/Ohio

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Tommy Roden, Richmond Virginia — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:52:30 GMT

They should all be locked up if they are planning anything that would harm another human. But if they are just sitting around talking, how are they any different than what the NAACP does or what the Black Caucus and Black Lobby in DC does?

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Marty Searcy Arkansas — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:58:09 GMT

How often does a story make your blood boil? I read stories, or comments on them that make me very angry all the time... Most of the time, we the people just sit idle and though we get angry... we move on to something else and we cool back down. We don't turn in to extremists! However, our country has come to where it is... because of injustices ignored! On both sides... black, white, Jew...!! Corruption is everywhere because the right people haven't stood up and done anything about the guilty.... makes no difference which side you are on! All because a nation has turned its back on truth and Justtice, and the Almighty God! Haters are not of God... and there is Hate Everywhere!

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B.L. Dallas, Texas — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:58:10 GMT

Gas and food prices are steadily rising with no relief in sight. Our food supply is slowly becoming contaminated with samonella and e-coli. They have begun constructing "The Wall" in Del Rio, Texas to keep the illegal immigrates out, yet the real threat of terrorism freely enters our country with visas. We are losing our homes to foreclosure in record numbers. Hmmm! Call me stupid, but it seems to me that we have more to worry about than the white supremists.

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Faustina, Rockville, Maryland — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:58:30 GMT

"these hate-monger, white-trash, uneducated rednecks will take a shot at our would-be president.

Who is the hate-monger, white-trash, uneducated redneck? Why, Brendan, of course. Hey, Brendan why don't you go fly a kite in a thunderstorm.

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linda@buchananhardwoods.com — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:58:42 GMT

WE ALL HAVE OUR RIGHTS TO BELIEVE HOW WE CHOOSE. HOWEVER, TO HARM ANYONE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DEFENDING YOURSELF AGAINST HARM, IS WRONG. PERIOD. ANY GROUP OR INDIVIDUAL SHOULD BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW. WE ALL HAD BETTER LEARN WE ARE ALL WE HAVE. NO OTHER COUNTRY WANTS US.

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Angela, NY — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:02:45 GMT

Brendan maybe you should follow your own advice. Red necks represent a group of people such as farmers, because back in the day the lead from the horse when they plowed left rub marks on there neck, black or white, so lets get it strait.
I aggree that the drug problem should be attacked with full force, but you cant kill people off, giving the public freedom of speach means those of us who agree with the death penalty are usually out-voted.
Current technology has given smaller groups of people more power than they ever had before. example: Aurora vulnerability
Its important that the governmnet looks at every little thing. Its hard and there isnt alot of money to spend on everything, but im happy to see our government making an honest effort to protect our country both inside and out.

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Andy, Kansas City, Kansas — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:04:04 GMT

I as well am not an advocate of the KKK, Skinheads or any other white supremacist group yet, if they are to be writing a story on hate groups why not report on the increasingly violent MS-13 gorillas living inside our country borders? Why not mention the hate crimes inflicted to whites from hate groups like the Crips and the Bloods? All the extremists who cast their hate and insecurities on others need to be taken care. Try some real reporting next time, and not this minuscule statistics of 203 (dare I say soldiers) of our 1.4 million registered armed forces soldiers.

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Billy — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:04:46 GMT

Only the naive would believe that hate or racism is only something uneducated or undereducated people do.

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Sandy Oxley (white male), Long Beach, CA. — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:08:31 GMT

One cannot compare street gangs such as the Crips and Bloods who fight each other for teritory (like the mafia) with white extremist who kill, injure and terrorize those whom they view as inferior (non-whites, jews and gays).

It is extremely naive to believe that all white extremist do is "burn crosses or meet on farms". The most widely known hate crime of recent years was committed in Texas (surprise) where three white men tied the legs of a black man (Mr. Bird) to the rear bumper of their pick-up truck and pulled him behind it for a couple miles as the pavement ripped his flesh off to the bone. Mr Bird died as a result. His crime, being black and walking alone down a country road.

There is real concern here given a man of mixed heritage is running for the highest office in the land. A fact white extremist find totally unacceptable. They will do anything to prevent such from occurring for they know if he succeeds their argument of being superior is exposed for the falsehood that it is. Although one could simply contrast the intellignece between Bush II and Obama to show just how false the concept of white superiority is.

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Ed .G Bartlett Tenn — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:17:59 GMT

To John doe; Black power groups like the crips and bloods onlycame aroundin response to groups like those portrayed in the documentary the gangs of new York ,which talk about the first gangs in the early 1900s,who were all whitegangs[Irish and other ethnicities]who were theprototypes of thegangs today.Not to mention theKKK of the 1800s. these gangs were a response to the lynchings and beatings ofthat era upon minorities, by the white gangs.They just learned that behavior from their white predecessors.Lets not forget the biggest White gang of them all ,the {Italian] Mafia!IMust add that Iam anti gang af any typeand there is no excuse for that . just a history perspective.

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George, Hendersonville, TN — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:27:10 GMT

This is an interesting discussion but let's try and avoid gross generalizations of individuals based on how they look or where they are from. For example, someone mentioned skinheads and while the skinheads you see on TV tend to be white supremacists the vast majority of skinheads in the US are not. One of the largest groups of skinheads are known as SHARPS - Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice. Also not all rednecks are racists, I would hate to see innocent individuals painted as white supremacists.

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Cameron — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:33:39 GMT

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Kay New Orleans La — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:34:04 GMT

We don't have to worry about terrorists killing us,we do fine all by ourselves in that catagory. Do we not realise that is what the rest of the World likes to hear, that we are killing each other so they don't have to take the blame but still have the same outcome. We are doing their killing for them, and then when we are at each others throat they can come in and finish the job??? We need to stand fast together and remember "One Nation, One People, One Goverment"

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Susie from Colorado — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:39:42 GMT

What does drug addiction have 2 do with anything? Why did someone all of the sudden go from commenting on kkk to dising people with drug addictions?

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Clem, Indianapolis, IN — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:53:13 GMT

Power groups like the Bloods and Crips?! Those are gangs, they don't empower anyone! I'm more concerned with the white supremacists that wear business suits and ties and get in the elevator with me on a daily basis. Hate is everywhere and as long as there are people there are going to be people who hate something or someone. I thinks it makes them feel better about themselves. I can't stand ignorance. It seems it makes it so much easier to have intolerance. As a former service member, the military was an awesome opportunity to learn about different people and ideas. I feel for those that couldn't find it a positive opportunity to grow as a person.

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patton434 — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:59:05 GMT

Out of millions of men and women in uniform, 203 of them have joined. This is a story??!! Clearly this is written with an ulteriour motive - to try to smear the heros who are currently protecting us, and have previously protected us from harm's way! I'll bet any amount of money that the writer is an Obama supporter... they are always trying to make the military, and vererans look bad as a way to subliminally influence people against McCain. For the people who joined these white supremist groups - even if 1 person joins, it's an outrage. But it is equally an outrage when people join other hate groups. Maybe someone should write an article on how many people in the Obama campaign were members of domestic hate groups! You'd be surprised about the low-lifes he surrounds himself with - not to mention the biggots he financially supports!

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John O Dublin Ireland — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:03:54 GMT

I have to say that's really disturbing your Government feels the need to pluck people off the streets in far-away places calling them “terrorists” or enemy combatants or what ever terms the call them to flout the Geneva Convention, when in fact the greater danger in your Churches, schools and now you’re military. But then again what do you expect when the bottom 10% of your high-school class out on the frontlines with impressionable young men in a land where they really don’t want to be fighting a war they just can’t seem to win. What next America??

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CMS, Oceanside, CA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:08:09 GMT

203 have or "claim" military experience. I wonder how many of them also "claim" to have been Special Forces or Navy SEALs and to have won the Medal of Honor. I bet a significant percentage are self-inflating posers trying to cling to these pathetic groups because they can't get anyone else to take them seriously.

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Einstein — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:12:19 GMT

Howard D Reed, I must say, you are one brain washed SOB. Kill all the dealers and users? Are you insane? If you want to eradicate the drug problem, legalize them! That way there ARE NO pushers or gangs or drug lords, or addicts srobbing your home to feed their addiction, etc.. Do some research, during the prohibition the mafia rose to unprecedented levels of power, because of the money they were able to make by selling the illegal liquor. Legalizing alcohol almost broke the back of the mafia and they haven't been nearly as strong or influential since

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Don't Tread on Me, Washington DC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:15:56 GMT

The "politically correct" coddling of minorities within the military I believe would only strengthen the predisposed resolve of any serviceperson to act out in such a way as to join with likeminded individuals. It is their choice, just as it is yours or mine to disagree (So sayeth the Constitution). The Southern Poverty Law Centers ultra-liberal spin has never been one to be taken seriously.

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LaurieK, NC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:17:07 GMT

Marty in Arkansas,
I agree...most of the time we DO sit down, IE: Gas prices, among so many others. IF the USA conducted themselves like the working class do in FRANCE... the moment they feel wronged.. their people go OUT on the streets and protest/they demand change. They effect change by being strong in number and DOING something. We all spend a lot of time using our PRETTY WORDS as I call them.. here in blogs etc... in the USA at least...
Suppose we all focused that much time or MORE... DOING something to effect change re: gas prices or the banks going belly UP... corporate america/banks etc... they use our money to invest they say.... and when they lose our money from banks we deposit our savings into and make bad investments NO one pays they walk away free and clear, and retire /sipping drinks on a beach,etc while the working class lose their hard earned money.. more later :) on that.

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Paula Morris (New York) — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:23:20 GMT

untill the philosophy that the color of the skin is the same as the content of our character is total and finally discredited, there will always be hate, until we realize that we are all formed from the dust of the ground and we stop blaming each other for our short coming, and each person is acknowledge as created in the image of GOD we will continue to fight each other.
Eventually the kingdom will be here and the New Jerusalem will be our government of peace, justice and mercy - when death shall be no more!

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Paula Morris (New York) — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:27:16 GMT

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D. A. St. Louis, mo — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:38:57 GMT

And I will say this-Blacks have a better chance of being maimed, beaten and killed by other Blacks than they do of falling victim to violence at the hands of wierdo extremist groups. I was a criminal justice major in college, and I can tell you, most crime is INTRAracial-meaning Whites are more likely to kill Whites and Blacks are more likelly to kill Blacks. If groups advocate organized violence, that speech will not be protected. If they are simply saying negtive things about Blacks, that is free speech. Do Black interest groups degrade whites verbally, and through public policy? You bet they do. But Blacks are pretty much allowed to say anything and it is "protected." It is time stand up for all rights and speech, not just the politically correct bs we are forced to protect.

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American Too — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:43:25 GMT

To Cameron (Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:33 AM)
Some pass me on the street - and sneer in my direction.

They call me “Ni**er”, “Jigaboo”, “porch monkey”, “jungle bunny”….And that’s OK.

You have EVERY DAY

You have FOX News

What day have you awakened and wasn’t proud?

You have every month except the shortest month of the year! Geez!

Do you really need an organization to help you advance? What’s holding you back? Besides, the ACLU supports all.

Police Departments are made up of people. People make mistakes, that not racism, that’s reality. But to shoot someone who is retreating sounds kind of cowardly to me.

No one said only whites can be racists. It just seems that history, from the Indians to the slaves, had a problem, hmmmm, what could that have been?

They were different. That was the problem. That is why gays/lesbians are now included in hate crimes. It’s not about color it’s about differences. One of these days we as Americans will stop creating things that separate and divide (TV stations, radio stations, holidays, etc.). Until then, we will just continue to post comments like yours and mine.

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TK, Cincinnati OH — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:51:09 GMT

The FBI does list homegrown terrorist groups, ie the Ku Klux Klan and other white power organizations and some black nationalist organizations, as part of the terrorist group watch list. In fact, the KKK has been on the list the longest in our nations history. This is why the FBI has been able to account for this information.
Additionally, for those who continue to argue that the reason for the sentiment of these groups is due to protecting minorities and that Black Americans are getting jobs over more qualified White American applicants should check their history. Affirmative action only comes into play in organizations that had a history of now illegal discrimination in the past. Hence the reason that federal and state government offices have to comply with affirmative action. Just because a company is listed as an equal opportunity employer does not mean that they are subjected to quotas or other means to increase the number of minorities working in their companies.

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LaurieK, NC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:51:48 GMT

I'm thinking that some "people" be they government or groups... would love to see us all go after one another... or keep us busy chit chatting about the KKK rather than protesting about some issues going on now and demanding change. I'm thinking we're being HERDED like sheep... to a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT...What do you think?
For example: In a meeting at work with our rep from wachovia bank (who's stock fell from over 30 a share to 8.58 cents a share or so recently) P.s. they just named a leader on wall street/treasury to CEO ? CFO? I think CEO, of Wachovia Bank, and it's all very curious to me, the strategy of things taking place in big Corporate America/and/government with banking and who's who. Trace the money/.............
Anyway, this REPRESENTATIVE for Wachovia Bank, who handles our 401 K plan... she came right out and said.. look Soc. Security won't be there for you when you retire.
Are we doing anything about that? NO.
We need to.
NOT one of us should have to pay a penny into social security when reps from huge banks are even coming out and saying SS won't be there for us when we retire???
And, it's basically common knowledge.
HOW does the government know this and not do anything about IT but can at the same time in history pour BILLIONS into a war...
I could go on forever.. bottom line.. we do need to stop using so many pretty words and we do need to organize peacefully and effect change.

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J.C. — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:09:10 GMT

I think we are all missing the point by a very wide margin. Instead of looking at the issue and dissecting it for what it is, we immediately turn this into a debate on race. Sound familiar? A race war is what these groups want- and that is fueled by division, misinformation, and lack of unity. I've followed the writings and postings of these "groups" for years now, and as a black man I am sickened by their rhetoric, but understand their agenda. Basically they feel their way of life is threatened by minorities, immigrants, liberals and the like- and that the government they once held dear, cannot and will not do a thing for them. It then becomes a noble cause (cue the revolutionary music) to fight for one's race- because, as they state, our race is our flag. I can sympathize with wanting the best for your "people". I can understand wanting a better future for your children. But to base your glorious cause under the unifying flag of race is beyond me. As a black man I am proud to be an American, but I too understand that all is not perfect. For all the advances blacks have made, a lot of it is squandered- look at any video on MTV now, and you'll understand. It's of no substance, and not representative of the majority of blacks trying hard to make things work. So I can sympathize with their plight. No one gave me a thing- and I have worked hard for everything I've earned (as have those around me- black and white, etc.). The real enemy here is not black or white- it is the media and the powers that be who thrive on our division. The more we fight amongst one another- the less time we spend examining the real issues in our government that need to be solved. I support the right to free speech. And even tho these groups would preach for my death or worse- it's their right. This sort of thing isn't new, and I truly believe that there are those in higher seats of power that allow this division to grow because if we as AMERICANS were to take a look at the real issues and unify as one people, we would see that those chosen few in power are making BILLIONS off gas prices, etc., while real Americans (White, Black, Latino, etc.) fight for the few scraps we are afforded. If we took less time forging ways to further divide us by race, ethnicity, etc., and came together to affect real change in this country- then truly we'd see a real power movement. American citizen power.

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LaurieK, NC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:11:37 GMT

I agree that we need to do something about the KKK in the USA. But it would be good to focus our energy in other area's too.

In my opinion, many of us are becomming weak minded and fearful in the USA. We don't truly stand UP for anything we are passionate about anymore. We just blog it. I'm sure the government LOVES that and provided it TO us, so that we wouldn't be in their faces, hmmmm?

We've been BRAINWASHED in so many ways in the US.

When Ronald Regan FIRED Air traffic controllers in the 80's when they did what their RIGHT was as UNION men and women and went ON strike... he instilled FEAR into American's by firing them!!!

Check out history, you'll see many very bad men have said if you instill fear in men you can rule a nation. (HITLER FOR EXAMPLE)

So, not taking away from the great things Regan did... but by firing the A.T.Controllers, he instilled fear in American's and we have NOT been the same since.

NO one fights for anything anymore!

We just lay down and take it.

IF all the teamster's for example, just went on strike and said... we're not doing *(*&^ (anything) until gas prices come down....things WOULD change and gas prices would come down.

(Are there any teamster's who can help me out with this/truck driver's who can add to this?)
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WE are in fear..of our employers, our government
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I mean... are working class American's REALLY happy just living ON the surface of life? Going to work, coming home, paying bills, going on a vacation IF you can afford it every year? What is your purpose in this life? There is more! We shouldn't lay down for things like rising gas prices when there is NO reason they should be going up at all except corporate and government GREED. Sorry, SOMEONE needs to say it!
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We're in fear! (speaking generally/not for ALL)
If we stand UP we're in fear of losing our jobs. But what good is having a job if you can't afford to LIVE.
I'm WAY off topic here...
It's not difficult for me to think about sitting down with a KKK member to try to get through to them and discuss some things. What I can't get my mind around is seeing how so many behave(on tv, etc), how brainwashed THEY are....themselves... HOW I could possibley even try to help them open their minds or hearts without losing my own mind in the process. It would take a great deal of strength, patience and self control from anyone willing to try to listen to them or work with them in the hopes of educating them about such a seemingly simplistic thing as... we are allllll brother's and sister's here on this earth together and should all care for one another... not hate one another because of our skin color or ethnicity.

It's so hard for ME to understand why ANYONE could not GET that.

Imagine this: If we the people... were to alllll come together... there would be very LITTLE that corp amer. or gov. could do but change if we stood strong in our numbers. I personally don't believe the KKK should be allowed to march and have any chance to reach our youth's minds or attract any attention because they breed hate and it's prove!

Until we realize this and actually take action on it and do it in a positive way, with love in our hearts not hate, nothing is going to change... I know there are others much more radical in their thinking, but I strongly believe those beautiful words: ONLY LOVE CAN CONCUR (spelling) HATE! (If WAR is the answer, we're asking the wrong question! I agree)
And George Bush?? I hear all his pretty words about... how HIS idea about drilling in America is this or that (good) but it's being held UP by congress /the Democrats, etc. PLEASE do not insult intelligent American's George,
#1. It would take at least 10 years to get raw materials from our soil and refine them etc... we need results NOW....
#2. In the 1970's when I was a kid, my family owned thousands of acres in Alabama, and the government was going to drill for oil then they said, due to the energy "CRISIS", this is B.S. It's just pretty words, they never did drill. But they'd have forceably drilled and given my family 1% of all monies because we didn't own the mineral rights to the land.
The government can do a LOT of things in times of crisis regarding what we THINK are our rights. When push comes to shove you'll see what rights you really have.
And, your money??? Banks? Indy Mac, etc... 80 yr old woman (approx) had 282 thousand and got less than 200 grand, some got nothing. For those who DON'T know... FDIC banks only insure 100K so don't keep more than 100K in ANY bank. Even if you have two accts with 100K each in them... when a bank fails they count it as ONE acct, even if one is a business and one is a personal account. There is so much more re: banks and FDIC, google it because I've taken too much room already!
I say:
Do all things with love
Do not allow yourselves to be brainwashed by any group/whoever it is...USE YOUR OWN MIND.. or by government (which many times is bought and paid for by huge corporations)or media (which many times is bought and paid for by government).
Trust your OWN gut instincts
Do no harm to another person
Pray (if you believe) or whatever it is to keep you centered and helps you stand firm in your foundation..
PLEASE don't VOTE for a candiate who is trying to run on a RIGHT TO LIFE ticket.. they flip flop and even if they don't.. from what I've learned, God gives us FREE WILL.. and WE have to answer to our own God about our own actions, it shouldn't even be something government decides, ever!!! Choice is important too, because, there have been many girls who've died from botched abortions even today... if we take steps backward, there could be two deaths when a woman attempts to abort her child, not only one.
I know this is controversial and I've experienced a lot with it myself and have learned what's RIGHT for me.. still, I support choice, because GOD supports choice.. how can WE twist that? That's a subject for another blog, but please look at MORE than if someone is PRO LIFE.. and PRO LIFE means they are against DEATH .. right? Ahem... many of these SAME people who refer to themselves as PRO LIFE have IN FACT (I have witnessed this) been abortionists at one time/or/ (had abortions etc and HIDE it from their loved ones and friends and the public) and... also.. they SUPPORT war.. which is death to many, and support the death penalty? HUH?
There is NO rider in the 10 commandments that says.. THOU SHALT NOT KILL... except in case of war...
I would differ with what any theologian says.... re: war being OKAY...
GOD'S WORD is clear... THOU SHALT NOT KILL...

Man tries to twist God's word a lil too much to fit what HIS own purpose is.

If God says... do onto others as you would have them do onto you.... do not kill... love they NEIGHBOR.. that would mean anyone who's living with you on this planet that you rub elbows with hmmm? That does not say to me... it's okay to kill them.
I'm just glad I do not have to make the decisions of who must die for their crimes or why we must go to war.
I understand the reasons some believe we should have the death penalty and many of them make good sense. They one I agree with is... because it will make people THINK before the kill or if already in jail for life, will keep them from possibley killing while IN jail, because they know they'll die if they do....

I'm 100% against war because we are ALL evolved/advanced enough on this planet at this time to be able to sit down and rationally discuss things and come to an agreement!!!!!! PERIOD!!!!
If you can board a plane... and if you can reason... if you can read, shop, laugh.. IF you can run a country.. YOU CAN work out your troubles amongst your countries. P.s. If you can't manage... to work out the difference AS heads of government/ then it should be the heads of countries/governaments...Dictator's/President's and King's / Queen's) who fight to the death, NOT our children and citizens.

(Thank you all soldiers everywhere for being soooo brave, it does not go unappreciated by me at all, but I hate war)
and
Along with all our pretty words... let's DO something.... let's effect some change.
STRIKE... SIT DOWN... DEMAND CHANGE
Don't be afraid.... stop being led by fear.
Ask yourself.. what keeps me from standing UP for what I want to see change. (gas prices/corporate greed/banks going unpunnished when they lose my money - gov. too, no one loses their job when they screw the working class out of retirement $)
The answer is (for working class people) MANY times: I'm afraid of being fired!!! Because I have bills and have to feed my children..etc..
OUR US dollar is FAILING .... it's crumbling before our eyes.
Jobs once based in the USA are being sent overseas.... thereby taking away from those who could be working here today. I'm happy for those overseas it gives work to, but sad for us those of us living here in the USA. Banks are going bankrupt. The housing industry is horrid. And, there is MORE than one way to ruin a country... you can bankrupt them... make them crumble financially... OTHER countries (recently, with ANH. Busch company) are buying up all of our land, our businesses (Automakers, Furniture industries/banks!!!) so many!!, and even university's .. party stores... hotel chains, and the list is endless...well... if we were to lay out... on a map what is still owned by us citizens in the usa and what is owned by those who reside outside of the usa.. guess what?

It is MY belief the US owns less US LAND and business than those outside the USA do. So, if they pulled out all of their markers, we'd be immediately kaput finacially speaking.

So, bottom line, while the KKK deserves our attention... and needs to just be disbanded and yes at the very least WATCHED... there are a lot of other things/issues/groups we as citizens NEED to make ourselves aware OF and DO SOMETHING about.

Words are nice. ACTION is better.

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A olson buffalo, ny alscolors@verizon.net — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:13:09 GMT

It is interesting to note that whenever white people organize they are associated as hate groups, the white man is not afforded the abilityu to promote his culture or race, the same way hispanics La Raza, Blacks NAACP. I think it is also inaccurate to assume that these groups are associated with supremecy, maybe they want to be separate and not subjugate others, maybe they are fed up, also the bloods and the crips are criminal organizations, perhaps they are a response to ever growing black on white crime. Let's face it white people are not allowed to promote their own racial interests in our newly emmergent multicultural world, which some would say is culturally anit white. It would be more interesting to ask these people why they are inclined to organize in the first place.

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Mr.D., New York — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:18:46 GMT

STOP! Regardless of race, color, religious beliefs and practices we are still AMERICANS! Deal with it people. We need to support each other now, more then ever. Why waste time hating your neighbor when we have a whole world of people who HATE us for being who we are, AMERICANS! Black, white, red necks, white trash, whatever.... we still need to support each and everyone who lives in this country. Believe it or not, we are all very much the same. Some of us are a little different, but that's OK. It is not enough to hate them to death.

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LaurieK, NC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:25:49 GMT

To Cameron: Regarding: the following you sent along:

There are African Americans,

Mexican Americans Asian Americans,

Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc..

.....And then there are just -

Americans.

Some pass me on the street

and sneer in my direction.

They call me 'White boy,'

'Cracker,' 'Honkey,'

'Whitey,' 'Caveman,'

.....And that's OK.

You say that whites commit a lot

of violence against you, so why are

the ghettos the most dangerous places

to live?

They have the United Negro College Fund.
They have Hispanic History Month.
They have Martin Luther King Day.
They have Asian History Month.
They have Black History Month.
They have Cesar Chavez Day.
They have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
They have Yom Hashoah.
They have Kawanza.
They have the NAACP.

If we had WET

(White Entertainment Television)

.....We'd be racists.

If we had a White Pride Day

.....You would call us racists.

If we had the White History Month

.....We'd be racist.

If we had any organization for only whites

to 'advance' OUR lives,

.....We'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,

a Black Chamber of Commerce,

and then we just have the plain

Chamber of Commerce.

Wonder who pays for that?

If we had a college fund that only gave

white students scholarships

.....You know we'd be racists.

There are over 60 openly-proclaimed

Black-only Colleges in the US,

yet if there were 'White-only Colleges'

.....THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million-Man March,

you believed that you were

marching for your race and rights.

If we marched for our race and rights,

.....You would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow

and red, and you're not afraid to announce it.

But when we announce our white pride

But, when a white police officer

shoots a black gang member

or beats up a black drug-dealer

who is running from the LAW and

posing a threat to ALL of society

.....You call him a racist.

Why is it that only

whites can be racists?

Cameron (Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:33 AM)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Okay... that being said.... I hear you!!! Good questions...
I can't answer because I haven't walked in the shoes of a black american, or hispanic american, etc... I am a woman, tho... and the man who spoke about being a while male has a point, too.
We're all probabley discriminated against for one reason or another at some time. Luckily some of us are protected from it because they STOOD UP and fought for their rights.

IF You feel wronged. STAND UP. effect change.. in a positive way! Be smart about it! Do research and talk to some of your fellow American's who are black / hispanic, etc... ask them for advice. MOST people who've been oppressed KNOW how it feels and they won't be MAD/angry with you for wanting to learn... eductate yourself and fight your own fight, too!

But Cameron, until we stop saying we and they and drawing lines between races, I'm afraid we'll always have our guard up when it comes to other human beings who happen to be black or hispanic or asian or jewish or female or overweight or anorixic (wow..spelling) or bulimic, etc.. or so many other things..

Guess what???? If we ALLLLL checked OTHER on our job applications annnnnnnnnnnnd on the governments CENSUS reports every 10 years.. HA that would really mess things up. I did it and the government didn't ALLOW it.. saying oh it will not allow us to give to minorities then.. if we don't have the right NUMBERS. LIKE A WUSS..because they had some lil helper with the census... come to my door.. I said Okayyy I'll check caucasian rather than write in OTHER... but if we alllll just checked OTHER... ha!!! We'd take a big bite out of anyone being able to label us.
In my opinion tho... at this point in time many of us are toooo darn busy/lazy/afraid/unmotivated to do anything to effect change.
I say.. to american's who want change.. with gas prices.... or corporate greed among other things (animal rights etc.. so many things)....when you're ready to DO something.. LET ME KNOW....
We can't effect change without some organization and action..... in a positive and loving way.

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Stephanie, Hagerstown, MD — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:54:27 GMT

I'm saddened by this report. In a perfect world, we wouldn't even be talking about hate like this, but it exists within all types of people. My personal thought is that the military should take extra measures to show their soliders the true value of people, no matter what their race. This would also require supporting veteran's so that those individuals don't look to groups like this for what the military isn't giving them. I'm afraid that we abandon our soldiers once their time in the military is over and most of these men and women need community and they often find it in these groups. Good hearts and good people are fading fast, and I wish everyone would step out of their box, no matter what they believe, and turn their souls to better themselves and help others who are in pain.

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Young OMe — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:02:43 GMT

Obama wants tougher punishments for hate crimes. He is far-left. The extremists on the right can't afford not to recruit. Come November, they might have to take some serious action against the black and minority voters. Hope that they choose to be non-violent. Hope.
Non-violent intentions would lead to recruiting lobbyists instead of militants.
Racism continues to fester in the American Society

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rausky, Miami,Florida rausky79@yahoo,com — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:04:45 GMT

As an educated person of minority descent, the day I retire from my government job; I'm leaving the racist US. I'm moving to Spain and live out my last days where my grandfather grew up, in peace away from racist people.Its a shame the US has become such a racist nation. The bastion of democracy has become the fortress of hate.With so much hatred going araound, I'd rather live on a farm with my animals, who at least won't care what my background or colour is!!!!

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Tylaer, Grand Rapids, MI — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:17:32 GMT

i dont honestly care what the white supremicists are doing.lol it's too late for that now.the world has changed. that game was played. and they didn't win. so now i think we should all accept that we breathe the same air...do the same things...and you can't get into heaven with hatred in your heart. so for all the haters of any race...don't get left behind.

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Iraq Veteran, Austin, Texas — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:26:12 GMT

The fact of the matter is our military character simply mirrors our society. The uniform does not make them perfect tolerant people. They are citizens first and all of the problems of our society also exist in our armed forces. Gangs and other extremist groups infiltrate the rank and file when we have extended unpopular wars. Acceptance standards are lowered to compensate for the drop in volunteers. Simply put, the poor, downtrodden and motivated fight for this country when the lazy, objectors and rich will not.

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Skip, Los Angeles — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:30:13 GMT

Hate Groups or gangs, who gives a flying flip, these both serve the same purpose which is mayhem and destruction. Whether they kill each other or somebody else the end result is the same...........dead people.

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tim adams — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:39:45 GMT

I don't believe these racist organizations even exist, and certainly not in the numbers claimed by the FBI. They creating this hoax to increase thier budgets.

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C. Perk, New York — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:47:41 GMT

Just curious: If the issue is racism, why must the word GOD or inference of religion constantly be used to combat it? What does that have to do with anything? (Wars are waged because of that very idea.) If it's possible to take religion out of the equation, and actually consider ourselves human beings, of every perceivable hue, perhaps we as a nation could get past this hatefulness, towards ourselves and the rest of the planet. Do what's right because you have a conscience, not because a book told you to, just as you would if your actions were wrong. Unfortunately, this is not the world (or country) in which we live.

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bob, dallas, tx — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:05:55 GMT

This is a matter of homeland security, seriously you don't need to recruit a rocket scientist to set off a bomb, you could hire a postal worker. now if you want access to bomb making materials the military stashes the latest and greatest. Seriously, people shouldn't mock or take these things lightly, if someone decides to go postal you wouldn't want them detonating a bomb as oppose to the conventional small arms.

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B. Rhymes, Seattle, WA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:13:21 GMT

"I do not condone or agree with all of their views but must agree that White American males and their families are fed up with a government that has empowered Blacks and other so called "Minority" groups through 40 plus years of affirmative action that penalizes American whites by giving preferental treatment to these "Minorities" in terms of educational benefits and jobs."
Mike Ford (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:26 PM)"

Good point Mr. Ford, however you should also be aware of one other item: The phrase "Minorities", which people of color still are means that there are fewer of them than there are "Majorities", and no one can deny the influence and control the Majorities have over this country. The very issue of affirmative action and preferential treatment, if I may say that, is due to the sheer inequality of the residents of this country.

I cannot believe in a country that allows the 2000 and 2004 incredibly racist election debacles to exist in the same time and space where you are complaining about a white man who was passed over for a position or an education in favor of a non-white man. So much in-fighting! Why not complain about all the lost American jobs that are going overseas because labor is so cheap? If this were not the case, then perhaps both your examples, both white and non-white, could have a chance at employment.

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Nathan, Bedford Indiana — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:14:14 GMT

The majorty of us are not "white power" racist. We do not believe in white power, we believe in white separatisim. Minorities have the NAACP and the ACLU, we just want our own organization. Segregation is a natural process. I am not talking about the Jim Crowe laws but natural healthy segregation. People feel comfortable around their own race. This is why communities are formed, and people of the same race hang out together. Its not bad but it is a natural part of humanity. I am tired of the so-called idea of multiculturalism, it is bogus and will wipe away everything that made this country great. When schools stop teaching of our founding fathers like George Washington because he owned slaves, you know something is wrong. I do not view myself as racist but I know people on here will and I dont care. I am looking to maintain my own heritage and culture. It is who I am and what made this country great. I am proud to be a White Male, and will not watch my Country cast us into the back and forget about our rights.

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mark, union,nj — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:32:03 GMT

hey Oz, when moderate muslims actually speak out( or better take action ) against the extremists in the muslim community, maybe americans will start believing that you do not secretly agree with their views. Stand up for freedom for all!!
Remember when the Nazi's landed men on Long Island, NY during WW II. They were executed within 10 days as spys. No one died in GITMO. Now they are getting attorneys because they were not able to see their mommy's!!

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Joseph P. Uhl Lancaster,Ohio — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:44:08 GMT

I have read in several comments about all of us coming from the same (GOD) Well folks what ALL OF YOU fail to realize is that the belief in god is the basis of ALL HATE and PREDJUDICE!! I am an ATHEIST so I am incapable of being predjudice because I know that we all EVOLVED from the same first human race to walk this planet after EVOLVING from the primates> the first race to be totally human was the black race from northeren Africa.So! to all you STUPID white supremisists when you hate blacks, jews and any people of color then you end up hating yourself! If this planet would adopt and uphold the FACT OF EVOLUTION! then these idiots would not exist! but as long as religion and the false teachings of the Evangelical Christian Right Wing and any religion for that matter go on unchecked this country and this planet his headed for a race/religious war! And as a matter of FACT nearly ALL of these sub-humantwits are members of the NRA! GO FIGURE! this doesnt surprise me one bit! These people are COWARDS! Wake up embrace the FACT of EVOLUTION and lets live as ONE RACE!

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Richard — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:49:00 GMT

Why does it seem that only white supremecist organizations are vilified by the media? They are a terrible thing but why aren't Black Muslisms also listed as racist? They preach hatred of white men and jews. They actually believe that white men are evil and devils, they preach it all the time. But don't vilify them for the hatred they preach because it is against whites, and white men in particular. Or that church that Rev. Wright preaches at with his extreme racist Black Liberation theology? Why is black on white crime much higher than white on black crime? If these things were addressed and the government really made things equal and didn't tilt things in favor of minorities then these white hate groups would have a very hard time recruiting, because they would have no basis for an enemy. But as long as the government only publicly investigates white hate groups and does not investigate minority hate groups and expose them for what they are you will have this problem. Blacks use whites for hatred and whites retaliate by using blacks for hatred. Only when both are eliminated will there be a possiblilty for racial harmony, which the overwhelming vast majority of Americans want.

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Jim Matthews San Marcos, CA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:57:24 GMT

So again only white people are racist. What about the latino groups such as La Raza or EL GROUPO? Or the black groups NAACP or the BLACK PANTHERS. It seems any group representing whites is racist. But these others are supposedly civil rights organizations.

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Johnny Mack — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:07:55 GMT

To all the people who think the kkk, nazis, aryians, skinheads are some harmless bunch of hillbillies, your Wrong!! Some of these people are in positions of power. Politicians, (thurman, helms) police chiefs, judges, etc. Obama won't be elected due to pure unadultrated hate, and racism. That's the American way!! It's been that way for hundreds of years. Do you think that the white man is going to relinquish the most powerful position in the world to a Black man? Look at what happens to any great Black leader in this country. King, Malcolm, Evers, they are taken out. This is the culture of America. We need a new kind of leader, to bring us out of this nightmare were in, but due to rigged elections, voter fraud, disenfrancisment, voter supression, diebold, MSM, Cageing, prejudice, and pure hate, America will die a slow death, rotting from the inside out. No one brave enough to make a stand for what's right. We deserve everything that's going to happen. We deserved Bush and cheney. We let it happen!! Fools, all of U.S.

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White Girl, el paso texas — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:20:33 GMT

John M, Blue Ridge, Georgia...
NAACP is not a hate group. It was created during the Civil Rights movement to allow blacks to ADVANCE (the third letter stands for advance) from their position as second-class citizens. The position which was given to them by whites.

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sally — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:29:51 GMT

non white gang bangers, blacks and hispanics,etc. do the same thing. That doesn't make it into the reports of anti white, uh, anti racist groups like the SPLC.

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Michael S, New Hampshire — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:43:40 GMT

Is it really surprising that mercenaries (and yes the US military is composed of Mercenaries - They are paid, they are not volunteers by any standard) would be sympathetic to hate groups. These are violent people who chose a violent occupation and do violent things to other human beings.

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mtracy9 — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:03:42 GMT

All efforts to base a fascist order on skin color are doomed to failure. In the jet age, the mixing of races will continue to occur at an increasing pace. Even Hitler had to hide his Jewish bloodline from his followers.

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Former afvet — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:11:05 GMT

Richard, from Vienna, VA said:
I'm glad I didn't serve with someone who would doubt my loyalty and honor, just because of a bogus investigation by a Racist Anti-White organization (Southern Poverty Law Center) and an article written by a media outlet that makes it's money by keeping animosity stirred up between races. If you believe this about your brothers in arms. With that kind of mental capacity, heck, you might have retired as an E2.

Interesting point let me try to characterize you I wonder if you served and if by slight chance you did you were probably one of the racists (203) that are or were in the military. I would say that you listen to the most devisive media outlet FOX but you agree with their statements so you can't be objective anyway.

Having spent over 20 years in the military I have personnally met several that were admitted racists, and many more that the first time being around persons of other races are in the military (black, white, asian, & hispanic). As stated by other bloggers yes there are racist in the military (if you haven't served or have a relative in then you wouldn't know since the services don't broadcast it often, ie. Ft Bragg), gang members (gang fight on a military base in Denver) who have received training in the military and taught other gang criminals (California).

As stated before the military is a representation of society. Society has grown the quality of military entrants we are seeing today but rarely have taken credit for doing so. Every service has lowered its acceptance standards (circa-prison or military) from 10 years ago partly due to society and the other part due to the public wanting reduced military spending (prior to 9/11). This is only the beginning of the change in the military.

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Jane Doe, Seattle, Wash. — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:20:02 GMT

I enjoyed Mike Fords comments. I have 4 children that have worked really hard to make a life out there. The University campuses have more ethnic faces than ever before and our face is dwindling along with our traditions. I think that the article is to alarm the greivance groups that rally against the Supremacy. And as the groups rally for government assistance in many areas like Universities for their favored minority group,white groups are disappearing.

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MRJOESMITH@AOL.COM — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:34:18 GMT

PLEASE READ THIS VERY CAREFUL!! YOU ALL SOUND SO FUNNY TO ME COMPARING WHITE BLACK RED GREEN ETC! UR COLOR DOES NOT MAKE YOU. YOUR PERSONAILTY, YOUR EDUCATION YOUR MAKE UP AS A PERSON PERIOD!! SO STOP WITH ALL THE BULL S**T. LET’S ALL ACT LIKE THE MATURE ADULTS THAT WE ARE AND TRY TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE FOR ALL RACES TO LIVE IN. IF YOU DON’T HAVE A POSITIVE COMMENT TO MAKE ABOUT OBAMA, PLEASE KEEP IT TO YOUR SELF. HE HAS COURAGE FOR RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT WITH PEEOPLE OUT HERE TRY TO HARM HIM.

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Walter, ID. — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:34:21 GMT

I have been in the military and found that most of the men and women there are good people. it don't matter what color you are, we are all the same. we love our country, and will defend it when needed. the people who hate other races are not uneducated they were just tought all thier lives that hate of another is simply a way of life. and it will be that way for ever. there will always be hate. all races have good people and bad people. thats what we all have to accept and live with. we just have to keep them in check. watch them, listen to them, and stay a step ahead of them so that these people can't hurt anyone. and if they do they need to be jailed for life so they cant do it agian.

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Stan — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:35:55 GMT

The sad part is, these recruits served next to brothers-in-arms of all races, creeds, and colors some even bled, fought, died together. The enemy seems to be the only one that call us all Americans or Infidels, they seem to be the only ones that do not disciminate who they shoot, blow-up, or torture. The war is over there and while we do the fighting, some pieces of trash want to start one here. Personally I am waiting for all groups that cause harm to our nation from the inside to be labeled as a terrorist organization so we can finally get the green light to go after you. That includes gangs that shoot out our youth, drug dealers that destroy our future (to include the top dogs; the ones that own planes, ships, etc. and have the connections to get that stuff in the country), and most importantly the power of government that allow it because they are in bed with them. Last but not least the real powers behind the oil prices. We have the power to change our nation for the best right now if we just take the time to truly work for it. This war could have given everyone a job, shelter, and an education. I am off my soapbox, just waiting for the green light.

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LCSWEET ALBANY NY 12207 — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:38:07 GMT

nobody wants americans not to be proud of their race but when that race comes from a source of hatred of another or multiple races how is that empowering for that race? it isn't. it is what it always was the death of any non white race and how can any human take pride in that? THE KKK IS NOT A WHITE PRIDE GROUP. it's terrorist group. their message is always the same hate, murder, till there is no one left standing of color. and soon as their mission is accomplished they will probably start killing each other cause fear nad ignorance goes a long way with these and i use this term loosely (humans)

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John Doe, Dallas TX. — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:45:29 GMT

It is NOT surprising that there are more and more white people joining this type of group. I am glad it is a small number but I bet the number is much great. Everyday across the nation in all the newspapers and all the media outlets all white people here is how bad "whites" are and how bad they treat african-americans and hispanics. This in fact may happen but compared to how much GOOD they (whites) are doing for THEM is never put in the media, all everyone hears is the bad stuff. Think about this....There IS a all black school but there is Not an all white school. There is a Negro united college fund, there is NOT a White college fund. I know of many white, asian, indian kids could could use college money too. REVERSE racism is happening all over the world but trhe mediais stuck on keeping the blacks and white divided. Go to a any PRISON anywhere in the US, 70% will be black...WHY ? And in there you will see Racism against ALL white people. That is a Fact !!! Why can't the media leave race out of the suject ???

White-power groups recruiting from military

Ted B, Colorodo — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:14:15 GMT

OMG, did anybody read that rant from that clown "Tom the Patroit"

Well, Tom. I spent 6 years as a paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne Division, 10 years in Special Forces, and a combat vet (not a REMF sitting in the green zone either). Not once (I will repeat that again), not once did I every see or witness anything that resembles your rant. You are a complete idiot.

While everyone was all excited about 9-11 and Iraq, the right wing Christians have taken over all the military academies and the entire Pentagon. No solider can't advance in the military unless they go to daily Christian prayer groups, listen to officers pray during meetings, and support their ultra-right wing objectives. Jews, pagans and atheists are all debased, attacked and kicked out of the military for this good reason. The Pentagon is full of these people now spying on left wing, anti-war groups, democrats and anyone they feel like. They tap your phone or look at your computer anytime they want. All those nukes and defense systems are now under the control of CHristian ultra right wing fundamentalists. The stats above in the article are probably only the tip of the iceberg. Feel safer now?
Tom The Patriot (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 7:42 PM)

White-power groups recruiting from military

WhiteandAware,Concord,NC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:32:14 GMT

I lived in DETROIT during the 60's, and believe me when I say the BIG CITY is no place for white folk if you expect to live long. After the South Central thing, I expected to see some revenge killings over Reginal Denney, didn't happen, but since that happened there has been a few more Blacks LYNCHING whites for cameras to see. There comes a point, when white folk are gonna get fed up with all the violence coming from the Black community. Its already coming to a head in high schools across America, After the OJ trial I witnessed many t- shirts sporting the quote: In fear of a Black Planet. For those I say this, Your fellow Africans cant rule or feed themselves, What the heck do you think a world ruled by Blacks would be like, Heck you live in AMERICA and still have to have handouts to survive!! The Black race complains and whines more than any other in the world, Every other race on the planet has made it in America on their own hard work and without a whimper. Not the Blacks,No we OWE them a living. This Country is an AFFIRMATIVE ACTION DISASTER area.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Rob, Camp Lejeune, NC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:45:41 GMT

"Deep Impact"?! This is not a big, new story - it is a matter of MSNBC taking the opportunity to smear military servicemebers (again). I scrolled through all the offerings here, and detect a liberal tilt. The FBI monitors all types of potentially dangerous groups (be they Black Power groups, gangs, etc.) and their activities, such as recruitment in prisons. A report posted at www.nefafoundation.org states that an emerging trend among street and prison gangs is the crossover from gang to Islamic extremist. Deep Impact's article was filed under "terrorism" and "Iraq." Missing under "terrorism" are any articles about, for one example, the FBI's investigation into the planned targeting of US military recruiting offices by Islamists in Southern CA. These Islamists had already committed 11 armed roberries of gas stations to fund the attacks. So, MSNBC?

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Amber V. Pittsburgh, PA — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:53:37 GMT

Hey "American Too":

I agree about the Indians & the slaves . . . but it's been a long damn time since any of that happened & this is a completely different country today – for everyone except the Indians, at least.

Go visit a reservation or Appalachia to see people living in poverty most other American “minorities” can’t even imagine. They’d gladly trade running water, electricity & access to schools, hospitals & homes with floors for being called names on occasion.

Sticks & stones, of course. It’s not nice to be called names but it’s no better to be a whining brat with a false sense of entitlement as so many Americans are today, especially minorities & illegals.

There is only one race that Americans are allowed to hate, scorn, condescend to, be ashamed of being a part of, freely discriminate against & openly preach against: white.

There is only one race singled out for exclusion & legal discrimination in the US - whites. In the most ridiculously, over-the-top politically correct country in the world, there is only one race not respected by any others: white.

There is no place for white guilt in modern America. We are all what we’ve made ourselves. Whites are legally discriminated against in our society: quotas, affirmative action & all of the ethnic/racial organizations, events, fairs, festivals, clubs, schools, just to name a very minute few things that are available to everyone except white people.

Michelle Obama can introduce her husband to supporters at a rally as “my baby daddy” but a few months later, when a white reporter refers to her as (Barack) “Obama’s baby mama”, he gets fired, there’s a huge outcry, blah blah blah, same old same old.

Color doesn’t matter. Accountability & hard work are the only things that count. Until every American understands that, this country is going to continue to get worse. We’re so focused on the minutiae we can’t see the big picture.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Chuck, Lillington,NC — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:28:14 GMT

Everyone wants to concentrate on the white supremacy groups that have been infiltrating the military for years. My question is why not more focus on the latin gangs that have done the same thing, like the Latin Kings or MS-13. They are here in the military and I see there sorry tags everywhere over here in Iraq. And what about the Crips,Blood, BGD's and so on. Or is it the fact that they are minority gangs some think they are not "racist." Personally, I have no use for any sorry excuse of a DNA waste that bases either genetics or race, and the sooner all are found out ,the better. And I am a proud American of European descent, not a hyphenated American.

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Mike — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:17:54 GMT

WHY HUMAN BEIGNGS CANT LIVE IN PEACE??

HUMAN RACE IS A FAILED RACE. If we we have white only places or black only places. White will fight whites and black will fight black. History proves that. Basically we all humans are a failed experiment of some "GOD".

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Bill Cash, Rincon GA — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:45:49 GMT

The Army trains you to be a killer and takes away your individual identity then places you in the horror of war. People have been maimed by this throughout time. You deal with it the best you can with the existing institutions.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Think, USA — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:47:08 GMT

First of all, the National Socialist Movement is not a hategroup, but a legal political party, just like the the republicans or democrats. That is always funny, when the media talking against hate, because the media is really hater. Hate? Can I have a question? Who used the word "islamofascist"? Making hate against a whole relition sounds like hate to me.

"Attack this country, attack that country, kill an arab." This is what the government said, they did it. Killing people. What is more hateful then massacres in different countries? Don't you see the irony?

How strange the media and the press can manipulate the people so easily. Why do you let for them to brainwash you?

What about the hatecrime? What about the black on white crimes? That is also hatecrime, how strange nobody talking about it. Black on white racism. I don't think the government officers care about it.

What about the anti-arab israeli soldiers? Did you think about it? Strange the officers care about the different white groups, or anti-cionist groups, but they doesn't care about the anti-arab racism. Or maybe I should say the government made the anti-arab racism because they wanted wars.

We are from the same God, exactly. But why do you think the normal people are the same as the crininals, pedophiles, junkies, etc.?

A political party has members in the military? And you are scared, right? I think there are soldiers with Democrat and Repubplican membership too. What about the communists? What about the anarchists? I bet they are also in the army. I don't think you can find any articles about them on the google.

The SPLC. Yeah, right. That is the group what is saying if you are Christian and you don't agree with the gay festivals, you are a "hate group". The SPLC's crazy ideas are world famous.

Don't forget the 1st rule:
THINK BEFORE YOU TALK!

Just because some people talking, you don't need to believe everything. If you do, that is the so called "brainwash".

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Anonymous, WV — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:20:10 GMT

Hmmmmm, alot of comments here about race. Do any of you know why there are different races? The Bible tells us why God created the different races and their languages and why they were seperated throughout the world. It also WARNS us that the races should not mix. Having said that, is there any wonder why the world is like it is today??? How about some words of wisdom for all of us... Do unto others as you would have them do unto to you and... Don't judge others or you will be judged on judgment day and... Don't add to or take away from the Holey Bible or you will be added to or taken away from the Lambs Book of Life.

For (Tom The Patriot), I don't think you have a true understanding of what a Christian is and those you are describing based upon your descriptions would not be true Christians.

For those of you who worry and are scared, if you live right (by the Holey Bible), then you will not fear what is to come to pass for the Lord thy God and creater of all will protect you from ALL evil and make a place for you in the Kingdom of Heaven.

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Leonard M. — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:57:03 GMT

man we all are created equal by the man above ya feel me The KKK is hating GOD creations I hope they know that what they doing or beleiving in is a ton of crap and a waste of time

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medic fargo — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:54:29 GMT

In the future, we will all be one color. There will be no black, no white. We all bleed red; we are all the same on the inside. All of these hate mogers, black and white, need to learn they are a dying breed and accept what is in store for all of us.

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MP X, Ft Bragg — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:01:10 GMT

The Military is just a small cross-section of the Public, The rates of the average public's involvement is probably higher than the military involvement in these groups. Reporters like to find a number and investigate it until it is worth reading, you'd probably find out alot of interesting facts about the military that aren't a sensational but interesting, like the number of traffic fatalities are higher in the military than those killed in combat. This was highlighted in the latest Army Safety Conference. The number of soldier who die of Aids related illnesses are higher in the military than the general public. Amputations from non combat related incidents are lesser in the military than the general public. but none of these facts will ever make it in the "NEWS" I am proud to say I am a Military Police Officer and I do not see Black on White or White on Black violence as much as I see Black on Black. Usually over something stupid. The military has no tolerence for Prejudice and Bigotry, I have seen people discharged for something as small as on black guy calling another the "N" word in normal conversation. The military has a policy that states that you do not have to offend the person you are speaking to, you can be overheard and you will be prosecuted.

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Red alert, Jackson, Mississippi — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:02:52 GMT

This is an National Security Issue. U.S. Military personnel who decide on joining these insitutions of hate, rather it be the KKK, Ayrian Brother Hood,White Knights of Mississippi,Crips,Bloods,Vice Lords,Hoover Crips,Rollin Sixties,Folks, or any other hate group. Should be tried in a court for treason. This country is at war with people who don't give a damn about what color you are. Because, some of them are white and black. What bind them is that they are propel by their religious faith."Islam"

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Janet Doe, Charlotte, NC — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:25:48 GMT

I am an African American female in the military and have been for 8 years and racism is alive and well in the military. I have seen racism from blacks to whites, whites to blacks, hispanics to blacks, hispanics to whites, asian to whites and the fact is I could keep on going for a while and just keep interchanging races. However, the reality is it is the minority and not the majority. The key words are extremist and supremacist. When you hate any other race, sex, religion or whatever to the point where you would physically do harm to them or wish to eradicate and murder all of them that is a problem. There is nothing wrong with white pride, black pride, hispanic pride, asian pride groups. We all should be proud of where we come from and want our people to advance in life just not at the expense of belittling anyone else. Should we be worried about this group recruiting from the military absolutely and any other extremist group doing so. We as a country have hate coming from so many other places than home why do we insist on adding to it.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Joe — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:27:51 GMT

White power group - Black power group
This is a free country

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THE REAL DARK KNIGHT — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:49:33 GMT

We Afro-Americans are not going anywhere! We are not AFRAID of White Power! Because, if it wasn't the Afro-american you would probably be speaking Japanese or Spanish or possibly Middle Eastern dialect! The United States would not be as powerful as it is today! And we have suffered the most cruel indignity of ANY race of people worldwide, so some White Boy burning a cross doesn't scare me! But, I have to ask, Why is White America so afraid of Afro-americans? There is more than 250 million white people here and there is only maybe 25-30 million Afro-americans in this country? I'll tell you why! Your children listen to OUR music, they want to be cool like us, they want a sense of style like us. HELL, they want to be us! But if White people really want US out there way, here what YOU ALL should consider! Do You remember the Emancipaction Proclamation, where
Afro-americans were supposedly set free and were supposed to be given 40 acres and mule? Give us OUR due and HONOR the deal, and then we will be out of your hair! We would have Our own land &
government, so that YOU PEOPLE are threatened by us any longer! Because sooner or later WE WILL TAKE IT!

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Honkey, Indianapolis, IN — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:01:36 GMT

As long as it is okay for there to be Black Expos, Black TV, Black whatever, there will be WHITE "Extremists"! Why can't we do away with all this crap and just have America? Whites are now the minority, can they claim anything?

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Danielle, Atlanta, GA — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:04:22 GMT

I'm pretty sure anyone who's condemning any "hate" group hasn't had any kind of real life experience dealing with people vastly different from them. You probably work in Starbucks, surrounded by your similar suburban buddies, talking about hybrid cars and the benefits of soy.

Don't any of you realize that when you're forced to spend time with people you don't like, eventually your opinions and "open-mindedness" change? Your opinions change when you're forced into situations where you're isolated from those similar to you. You change your hippy idealism when you feel like things around you are being taken away, changed, distorted, and you're being forced to live in an evironment that isn't acceptable to you.

I don't think violence is the way to make it work. But every one of these so-called "hate groups" has a right to exist regardless of what skin color they support. Welcome to America, folks. Everyone hates everyone else.

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Brett Rice Tulsa, Oklahoma — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:50:24 GMT

Let me see.... If I want to be a member of a white power group that means I'm a racist. Correct? What is wrong with you people? I am getting so tired of America worried about offending everybody but the people who fought to create this democracy. There is Ms. black America, Ms.Latino America, The United Negro College Fund, NAACP. If there was a Ms. white America or United Caucasian College Fund, it would be a racist or hate group. I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth just because I'm white. I had to get the same student loans that a black man has the opportunity to get. If a white man gets beaten in a black neighborhood It's not considered a hate crime. If a black man gets beaten by whites "hate crime". I love my America and will fight for her to the death but we need to take a step back and look at what is happening. Discrimination is wrong no matter what race you are and right now the white American male is getting the short end of the stick. Just because I am white I am passed over on certain loans, job contracts, and basic rights. I am not a racist, just a realist. I don't think the white race should be the master race, but an equal race.

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john doe , memphis , tenn — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:52:46 GMT

Hey i say good spanish and black should not be in the forces anyway let the klans men who is suppose to be about america handle the war im glad numbers are declineing when it comes to minorities in the forces get the rich to join if you can

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Pamela Smith, Birmingham Alabama — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:53:30 GMT

Why does this not surprise me? I have seen the video's of the atrocities the Iraqie people have experienced, do experience, on a dialy basis. These same video's of the beheadings, tounge slicings, finger choppings and hand/limb removal are shown to our Soldiers.

What do people think this war is, a game? This is WAR and our Soldiers experience the most horrible sights imaginable. RACE wars is nothing compared to the genocide and sexist deaths occuring in the public streets of Baghdad.

I just wish Blackwater would catch on.

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A dreadhead in Montana — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:04:24 GMT

Actually the military isn't the big recruitment ground for white supremecists. It's the PRISONS. And go to any big city and I think you'd find that 'colored'-on-white violence far outweighs white-on-'colored' violence (going individual case by case, notwithstanding so-called 'social injustice' on the mass scale). There's a lot of very angry people in prisons for stupid reasons (the war on drugs) that have nothing better to do with their time than become more extreme in their prejudices, which are corroborated and strengthened by the different race-defined gangs surrounding them. I had a friend who went to prison for herb, and got stabbed by 2 black men for having dreadlocks and "stealing their culture". He's now taken up sporadic use of the n-word. Sad. I was recently talking to a friend from Atlanta, and he tells me that black people in Atlanta are just as racist as the white people. He also told me that the kkk has their enclaves out in the hills, but that if they tried burning a cross in any kind of population center, they would be killed by white people. I believe hate is wrong, but that individuals aren't always in control of their hates, and if they're out in the middle of nowhere not actually doing anything to anyone, let them have their hole and keep their issues to theirselves. And really, one can only hide from the truth for so long. Humanity--It's not a race(competition)!! I know there's neighborhoods where people who look like me (light skinned, yellow-headed & blue-eyed) aren't particularly welcome, and so I don't go there. I'm glad the FBI is watching these guys so we don't have the problem of scared people making a bigger deal than there is and inflaming the situation. One thing these militant extremist groups DO want is ATTENTION. Any media coverage they get is considered a victory for their cause. And maybe it'd be good to look into reasons why white supremecy is appealing to these guys. I believe there are reasons for white kids to feel disenfranchised, considering my whole life I heard how "we" killed the Indians, enslaved the Africans,etc.. and the climate of black/latino/native/whatever ethnic pride which is denied to 'white' kids. I feel like (at least in the past) I've been denied the right to be anything but another 'white boy', even though I look into my origins and see much diversity. But yeah, I think we should really address the roots of these problems. Oh, and a correction to a comment a couple pages up: Obama doesn't have "African-American" roots, he has African and American roots. He is first generation "African-American".

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Alicia, APO AP — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:39:06 GMT

First of all, being a military spouse that is living overseas; I have never seen as much intermixing and truly a global community as I have here. I live on base and in my building there is 2 white couples, one black, one hispanic; the building behind us is one white husband/black wife, Korean husband/white wife, hispanic wife/white husband and a white family. I have heard several people from different races remark how they have never been hit on by so many different races as they have been here, they are quite surprised about how open and accepting everyone is when they first live overseas in the military community (we all rely on eachother and help eachother in strange lands). So sorry to burst this writer's bubble but I think being in the military actually allows one to experience diversity and even marvel in it. Perhaps there are some radical groups that are trying to recruit military people due to their experience (I haven't met or heard of any proir to this article) but overall the people in the military are very tolerant and accepting of other races/countries. We live in a completly different world then America over here and its a lot better. People behave, try to get along, and help eachother, it is an extreme difference from how American society has unfortunately become. I can actually walk at night and not worry about being attacked...so nice and peaceful. I can even let my children play on their own as I did as a child outside. I have met so many spouses from different places all over the world living on this base, from germany to japanese. Its almost a view of what society could be like if people respeceted eachother...My family is sad that we will have to leave and be stationed back in America in the fall, not because we don't love America but rather because of how dangerous our society has become the last few decades. I liked being able to allow my children to walk home alone from school or sit on my back porch at night and watch the stars without worrying if someone is going to attack me. I like that people here are respectful, helpful, and kind to eachother here. That blacks, whites, asians, hispanics all live together and there is no issue. Perhaps people should start trying to work together to recreate a better society in America, crime and lack of respect for others is rampant.

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Alicia, APO AP — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:46:58 GMT

Tom the Patriot: ummm are you a nutt or what? I live overseas on a military base and we have several churces ON BASE besides Christian, we even have a group for earth religions AKA wiccian. There are several different services and 4 different churches to meet in at different times, from muslim, jewish, wiccian, morman, catholic, to nondenominational christians. My husband's boss has been in 17 years and is a muslim...our neighbor is a E-7 and is Jewish, so get your facts straight before you start spouting off at what you "think" military life is like cause I KNOW what military life is like on an accompanied base. I would feel safer if people would think for themselves and rationalize things out rather then listen to the crazies.

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John Thomas, St. Louis MO — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:12:32 GMT

The Southern Poverty law center makes a living off of "White Supremacy". That is their bread and butter. Of course they are going to act like the Nazi's are coming.
When was the last time a Nazi was on the news for a carjacking or rape or bank robbery. It is not the Nazi's that are doing all the violent crime. They are the ones that are angry about it. Yeah, they are mostly misfits, I think some of the points they make are true though.

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Nick Indianapolis Indiana — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:21:35 GMT

White Supremacists have been moving up higher and higher into our government system for years, until the day when one of them would be able to become president and have congress and the supreme court filled with the same. Just because you dont here about it doesnt mean its not there. White Pride Activists (most of them) dont walk around with a shaved head and combat boots. They are everywhere in the same suits and ties as your businessman neighbor. To think that this isnt a real problem, or that this is okay is completely foolish. And the fact that most you think its not as big as it is makes it clear that they arents stupid like street gangs who kill eachother in broad daylight. These guys know what they're doing and are laying low until they have a chance to cause some real trouble.

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John Gray, Ft. Collins, CO — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:25:07 GMT

"So what? It takes all kinds of idiots to make a world. Do these idiots really think they can stand up to the most powerful military in the world (U.S). Our Govt. is not perfect but it is the best in the world. I am a retired (served 21 years) vet and I believe 110% in our Govt and if need be will fight these idiots head to head to defend our Constitution."

Jim Dallas, Texas (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:53 PM)

Rock on, Jim from Texas. Your comments show precisely the honor and courage of the U.S. Military.

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Super Fly, Harlem World, USA — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:08:54 GMT

I would like to say that "Obama", doesn't hate America or Americans as some of these idiotic back-woods dummies would have you believe.

Anyone who says this is a brain-washed fool! As far as white-supremacy goes..lol yeah right! That era has come to an end along with all of the death-bed-ridden "Baby Boomers" hoping that Social Security will save them!
"bloods and crips are black supremacist groups" What idiots! Why don't you put your sister down and try marrying someone outside your family gene pool.

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meka,mesa,az — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:13:51 GMT

i think they are being targeted at this point in time because of OBAMA being elected

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Chelle, CA — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:47:20 GMT

White and aware - although I agree with you partially on some of your points--Right now in many states we have illegal aliens demanding citizenship after breaking our laws to get here. They whimper and complain every second they get. We have another "civil rights movement" on it's way. I fear for my blond hair blue eyed white skinned children. It seems like the "whites" have done so much to give out for past "issues" if you will, and I can't even get a scholarship for college. It also seems like it is no longer the "whites" that should be held accountable for being racist> see Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson! If had used the N word in public I would probably be dead and or in prison, but he gets away with an apology? I am sick and tired of there being double standards!

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bobby perry jr savannah tn — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:08:18 GMT

i dont know but they are very power ful and can get the job done when they get ready and they are not uneducated they have uper level power in dc dont sell them short

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Rob, Brooklyn, NY — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:33:24 GMT

Big deal if blacks have the NAACP and Latinos the LA RAZA and Muslims who we are supposed to not be afraid since their religion is "peaceful" have CAIR why can't white Americans have rights as well?

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Connie, Burbank California — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:50:35 GMT

I grew up in Western Pennsylvania, near the Ohio/West Virginia border and my father integrated the community swimming pool when I was growing up because the pool was shut down one day when myself, another friend and our white classmate tried to go swimming. A cross was burned on the top of the hill above the houses of the African-Americans who lived there. I have gone into restaurants within the last two years that I couldn't have possibly gone into when I was growing up. The community across the street from where I grew up still hasn't had any African-American tenants and the person that owns the development said he would rather shoot himself than have African-Americans living there. The co-op community I grew up in was sued twice because they only allow African-Americans on one side of the creek but not the other. There are 30 vacancies because they are still not allowing African-Americans to buy in. Racism still exists and will always exist because we don't know who we truly are; children of the same Creator. Our sons and daughters in foreign countries bleed the same color, we all get the same diseases and die from them. There is no difference in reality, just in people's minds.

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Mike Crews, Floriduh! — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:05:06 GMT

I am intolerant of your intolerance of my intolerance......You hate the hate mongers.
You reckon that it's OK to bash a white culture, whether you agree with their veiw points or not. Your'e just as guilty of the oldest survival skill since the beginning of man...Hate.

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SM Yakima Washington — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:34:22 GMT

As I posted before (ignore the bloods and crips)MEChA is a Hispanic separatist organization that encourages anti-American activities and civil disobedience. The radical members of MEChA who refer to themselves as "Mechistas," romanticize Mexican claims to the "lost Territories" of the Southwestern United States -- a Chicano country called Aztlan (Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington). In its national constitution, MEChA calls for self-determination by its members to liberate Aztlan. MEChA's national constitution starts out: "Chicano and Chicana students of Aztln must take upon themselves the responsibilities to promote Chicanismo within the community, politicizing our Raza with an emphasis on indigenous consciousness to continue the struggle for the self-determination of the Chicano people for the purpose of liberating Aztln."

Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge's MEChA chapter has been quoted as saying: "The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled -- opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power."

Former MEChA members include Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who was officially endorsed by La Raza for mayor and was awarded La Raza's Graciela Olivarez Award. California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante is also a former MEChA member. He delivered the keynote address at La Raza's 2002 Annual Convention. La Raza recives millions of federal grant dollars each year. La Raza was actively funding MEChA, according to federal tax records. La Raza literally means "The Race".

So 203 people were recruited by white hate groups = Investigation by the government and news coverage. Hate groups of minorities recieve federal tax dollars!!! I find it very interesting that so many minorites segregate themselves through organizations like La Raza, NAACP, Hispanic Chambers of commerce, Black Chambers of commerce etc. They segregate themselves as a group and when you try to hold them accountable as a group they cry and moan about it.Only in this twisted country bought and paid for by special interest could you have it both ways. I'm tired of being the bad guy because I'm white and the liberal nut jobs have made it easy to belittle any white persons accomplishments. Being white did not keep me in school and land me a decent job, hard work did that. Someday minorities might figure it out and stop listening to the others that have made lucrative livings by telling them they can't be successful as long as the white man is around.

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Jason Wentworth — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:02:57 GMT

I object to this report as I have done research on the NSM and NA. I find that groups are very much pro-American and want to protect the rights of the "Majority". They want to cut foreign aid to leech nations such as Israel (trillions of US tax payer money sent to Israel since the 1970s) and instead reinvest here in America. While every other group has special rights, the Majority people, White people, do not. This is alarming as the Majority people are losing rights at an alarming rate! If others are really equal, they will compete on an equal playing field without special job quota rules, special education funds for minorities, etc. Otherwise, those minorities are not really equal to Whites as they get everything based on an unequal playing field. The pro-White groups aim to see this practice eliminated.

I find that the NSM is not an "Extremist" group but a conservative right-wing political group that is organized to promote an alternative solution for the majority people of this nation and is a proponent of majority rights. Majority Rights need to be protected and the NSM aims to see that Majority Rights are indeed not only protected but promoted to the Majority people, those that are losing rights at a very alarming pace under the current special interests regime. If the Majority People do not fight for their rights, they will forfeit them!

The NSM endorses a Majority Rights candidate for President, Brian Holland.

God Bless America!

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Miguel Meyers — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:30:51 GMT

I agree 150% that this has been going on for decades. During my enlistment in the U.S Navy, there were incidents of cross-burnings, and black sailors being murdered and swept under the rug. Yes, it is a known fact that the KKK does not only exist in the U.S. military, but also in government (city, state, and federal), and police departments...go figure.

Miguel

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nativegirl, Toronto, Canada — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:48:27 GMT

I bet they are all Repubs. This is sick. And yes, they should be on a terrorist watch list, but that would diminish the Republican Party to 0. Look how they pick on Obama and his wife. They have nothing else to run on but war.

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George Warmonger — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:50:05 GMT

I for one am sick and tired of being punished for something I didn't do or have anything to do with.
I didn't have any slaves. I didn't ship them over here.
White American males and their families are fed up with a government that has empowered Blacks and other so called "Minority" groups through 40 plus years of affirmative action that penalizes American whites by giving preferental treatment to these "Minorities" in terms of educational benefits and jobs.

If you don't believe me, go into ANY government office AND VA Hospital and look at the ratio of "Minority" supervisory positions held.

Example after example of cases where Whites have been passed up for promotions by "Minorities" that actually scored lower in testing are abundant.

People should be awarded according to their accomplishments achieved, not by the color of their skin.

Until this happens, White Supremacist groups will continue to exist!!!

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Ima Kike — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:55:41 GMT

Typical garbage from the Zionist owned media!!!

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Niki Valparaios IN — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:32:04 GMT

I agree with ranger hall, there are groups for every other race but white people can't have a group. And for those of you saying that its awful, wake up. The whites are on the rise of becoming minorities. Why is it that white people can never say or do anything with out being attacked. But yet the blacks and mexicans can say and do anything these days.

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Christine, Orange County, CA — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:14:50 GMT

Why do we think everything in ONE article is the whole story? We think White Supremacist groups are scary. We also think gangs in LA are scary. This report does not say FBI are ignoring the gangs. This report states findings on ONE group. Period.

White empowerment is fine, if that's what is needed. Because being a minority of whatever color can possibly bring one down. But Supremacy is not what is preached in MOST minority groups.

Stop reacting and LISTEN.

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TadS, Central Indiana — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:23:43 GMT

This is one of the dumbest things I have read in a while. Last I checked it's still not illegal to be a white supremest. I don't agree with their choice, but many have died to defend their right to make the choice. It's long been a problem that the military is training thugs, criminals, and terrorist, but it's just not feasible without encroaching on peoples civil liberties.

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Selector Bill , santa maria, california — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:42:00 GMT

I would like to point out that not only are white power groups a scourge upon our streets and culture as is any racial power group (black panthers, La Raza etc.) they have to be combated physically and politically our government protects them under the 2nd amendment so the only way is beating them senseless out of our neighbourhoods and off our streets with violence, they will not listen to you they stand firm in their dogmatic philosophies, ...on another note i would like to address soemthing even more detestable that has been attached to Skinheads by ignorant people unfamiliar with the culture in the media and on the streets, aswell as this blog, Skinhead culture started in England during the 1960's with the cultural & racial unity of jamaican rude boy immigrants and british working class youths (mods).
True skinheads are apolitical and non racist.
White Supremecists claiming to be skinheads are National Front type thugs that copy only our likeness and none of our culture in an attempt to recruit disaffected youth into their gangs for their political agenda. i suggest you Wiki some history on Skinheads. and the next time you think about bashing on our culture to get your facts straight, "Boneheads" are not real Skinheads.

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Smart — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:43:27 GMT

Are these people immuned to arrests and interrogations by this same FBI that made this report available?
Why have they not be given recognition as terrorists? Or are they waiting for them to hurt people before they can act.

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t. morlan pend. or — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:04:47 GMT

First of all if you did your follow up on the oklahoma fed bldg there was much activity of foreign nationals of the muslum persausion so dont go spewing crap about white power groups, hell ms13 probably is more of a threat than any white power group. oh yea that southern poverty law ctr is full of oh the poor minority they have issues but a white guy is a criminal for joining a group no matter the affiliation when soon enough caucasians will be out nummbered then where will you bleeding heart lawyers go snooping around maybe the crips and the @ least 4 to 5 thosand gangs in this country whitey ain't got no chance unless he does band together. But of course thats illegal. B.S.

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The Dahakan, Bentonville, Ar — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:06:39 GMT

All of this is pure nonsense to me

because I know the truth.
I'll share it with you all

and it is this...

...all humans, regardless of color on the outside, with the exceptions of gender, age, height, and weight, look exactly the same when they're on the coroners slab lying prone
...bleeding red blood.

Everybody dies.

This is the fate of all humans regardless of whatever so-called group, or so-called cause they believe in or belong to.

Knowing this is not only empowering, it enables me to live a life of

no fear of any other human.

Period.

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Deron Blaides, Dallas,Texas — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:59:52 GMT

I am from the caribbean and living in the U.S it is a shock to know that there is so much white people with hatered in their heart. These people do not realize God is real and hate is not off God but it is the devil and is demons.Devil is alive so all the evil in this world will not stop until Revelation. It is going to get worst.

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Ghostdawg, San Antonio, Texas — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:18:35 GMT

John Doe...the Crips and Bloods are not Black power groups...they are gangs...who engage in illegal organized crimes.

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John Q., Port Gibson, Mississippi — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:08:31 GMT

Hey! Here's an idea for a new reality show: Take this working man and his stay-at-home wife, one son and one daughter (both about 7-8th grade) from anywhere up North where the South is considered full of racist rednecks and , naturally, they are not. Have them move into a typical Mississipi town, say Port Gibson or Vicksburg or Jackson. Kids HAVE to go to public school and the family can't live in a gated community. Check back in one year. See if there is a delta between views a year ago and views after one year.

People are quick to point the finger at whites and yell "RACIST" if a complaint is heard, and say that all racisist remarks are from ignorant white people. People living in the southern states know that is not the case, but a definate sharing of racial bias. But you can't say a black person is racist, nor can you say illegal immigrants are bad or you are labeld a "Hater" or something. Political correctness prevents honesty, for sure.

So let's get this reality show on the air. Remember: Not Reality...Actuality!

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JHarris, Anderson, IN — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:20:33 GMT

So why don't the feds arrest these terrorists? Must be cause they white.

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RWB, USA — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:44:54 GMT

Bravo Ranger Hall. Why is it that there is Black History Month and a United Negro College?
Where is White History Month? What if we opened a college called the United White College? Why are white people that are proud of their heritage called white supremists?
I am no supremist, i despise the neo-nazis, however I am proud of my white heritage and I seek to preserve it the same way that every other race does. When will white people allowed to be proud of themselves without someone else calling them racist?
In closing, what do you call someone that belongs to The Black Panther Party?

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PROUD REDNECK FROM GEORGIA — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:03:02 GMT

Can't we all just get along?? I mean if everyone would just open there eyes and give everyone a chance they would see that there is good in all of us as well as bad.It doesn't matter the color of your skin,although statistically speaking,crimes involving blacks and hispanics do outnumber the crimes created by the white race.Take into account that a big reason is the fact that they hold a grudge against the white race for things that happend years ago that I nor my parents had anything to do with,yet they wish to carry it on and on and on to no end.As for calling me a REDNECK or HILLBILLY,,well I am very proud to be a REDNECK!! But that doesn't make me a racist or uneducated. I happen to have some very close friends who are black and mind you I live in Georgia in the middle of nowhere.We work together,we B-BQ together,we throw horseshoe's together etc. and I wouldn't trade any of them for an egotistical rascist (white,black,hispanic,etc.) idiot for nothing in the world.One more thing I would like to add for those of you that think all the racism is in the south.I have lived and traveld all over the USA and have been around and witnessed more racism in the midwest and northwest then there is in the SOUTH.

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Riaz, Seattle, MN — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:18:57 GMT

For those who think 203 is insignifacant... it took only two people to carry out OK bombing.. it took only 20 odd to carry out NYC trade center crash.

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Jay Cole, Augusta, GA — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:23:18 GMT

I have spent the last few months browsing the web and looking at the different views and opinions that are held by people of all walks. It is amazing how differently we all see this world. I am a veteran of the US Army. I served my country proudly for eight years and seven months before I decided to walk away. I seperated due to family issues (we were a dual-military couple with no family care plan). At any rate, I can tell you that in those eight years I saw and heard many disturbing things. Whites and blacks alike engaged in activities that were less than patriotic in my opinion. From folk proudly displaying confederate flags and tatoos showing allegiance to "white supremist-like" groups to individuals who were still throwing up gang signs and wearing their "colors" representing their gang affiliations.

This is just an article that is showing one side of the coin. There are many articles out there that show the different "threats" that exist within the military ranks. The author just decided to write about this particular one. If people do their research or open up a newspaper every now and again, you will see that for the last few years they have been investigating the growing numbers of gang or extremist affilitated members that are in uniform. The FBI released a report titled "Gang Activity in the U.S. Armed Forces Increasing" dated 12 January 2007.

To the veterans who have not seen this type of activity, it's because it's more prevelant in the lower enlisted ranks. You don't know about it because when you went home at night, that's exactly what you did, you went home. You didn't live with these soldiers in the barracks. I did. I seen all of these things first hand. I'm not saying that you all don't know what you are talking about, but at the same time it shouldn't be that surprising. Some of the kids that join these days don't join with the intent of recruiting others, but once they get in and see that their are others who share their ideas and thoughts, they tend to gravitate towards each other. It's a natural thing for all human beings to want to feel like they are apart of something, to be around people that look like them, talk like them, can relate with them. But it's a choice that many people have. You can either choose to be apart of the same thing, or do as I have done and choose to learn about others. It's amazing how much we all have in common once you take the sterotypes and brandings away. We all want to do our best, we all want for conditions around us to improve, but for some people in our society it is more difficult to achieve "success" than it is for others.

At any rate, we all need to open our eyes and realize with our real eyes that we living in a world filled with real lies. Instead of pointing out the differences in each other, why don't we build on what we have in common? Why is there so much division and segragation in this world and not enough unity? What ever happened to "United We Stand, Divided We Fall". Whether people want to admit it or accept it, we are a nation divided. But until we all look within and start taking personal responsibility and accountability for our own actions and stop blaming the "system" for our woes, we will remain a nation divided. We can all be apart of solution.......

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Carrie from down south — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:09:49 GMT

Why not use the terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, as your training victims?? They're against us anyway

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Joe Doe — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:35:12 GMT

Exactly, what about the percent of race crimes comitted against whites?? I grew up in Philadelphia and still have nightmares of all the harm brought to my friends and family. Why does the powers to be turn a "blind eye" to those statistics?

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Phil Clinton Illinois Proud American — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:42:05 GMT

I am a Navy veteran, and a proud American. We all have to live in this country together; no matter our color. I agee and disagree with a lot said on this forum, but. There are people that preach hate in every racial group. Ther are also a lot more of us that don't. We the people that don't are the ones that can make this a beautiful country to live in. I agree that we should drop all programs that give anyone according to race or religeon a preference in this country. Make us all equal, and let us gain ground on our ambitions. We should gain promotions on our merit and worth, and by nothing else.. God Bless the U.S.A.

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Matt Sylmar CA (USMC/US ARMY.) — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:24:28 GMT

It has been almost three years since I have read or watched any news. I watched the interview that Geraldo Rivera did with the unit Commander that I was attached to in Iraq (04-05). It made me sick. So sick that I couldn’t stand to read or watch the news. How come none of my friends or family has read or watched any of the good things that happen. Oh yes folks the papers and the news stations are hiding the fact that the US Military is also doing good things over there. Imagine that nobody over here knows anything about it.
My unit handed out a few thousand frozen 2lb chickens to the wonderful locals of that dump of a country, and the school supplies to the little kids. Hmmmmm. So for you to try these bullstuff scare tactics on oh my god 203 white supremacists. You writers have a lot to learn. In my opinion we need bloods and crips and white supremacists in the military now days. These are to only people that we have left with any type of house to house warfare. Why don’t you write more stories of the men and women that mean something to this country.

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GEORGE GOLDEN.NEWARK NJ — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:26:21 GMT

WHAT HESE HATE GROUPS ARE MISSING IS THAT IN THEIR GROUP THERE ARE THODE TAHT HAVE BLACK HAIR,AND DROWN HAIR,DARK BROWN EYE'S,OR LITE BROWN EYE'S,OR HAZEL EYE'S.DON'T THESE HATE GROUPS UNDERSTAND GENETICS;THAT IF ANYONE LOOKS LIKE THAT IN THEIR GROUP THAT THEY ARE MIXED WITH SO CALLED BLACK PEOPLE;AND THAT ADAM AND EVE WERE,SO CALLED BLACK;AND THE,SO CALLED WHITE PEOPLE, ARE MUTATIONS THAT CAME ABOUT THROUGH THE SO CALLED BLACK MAN ,AND WOMAN.SO IN REALITY ITS NOT ABOUT HATE,IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTROLE,AND THESE HATE GROUPS ARE A PART OF THE GOVERMENT,THAT'S WHY THEY STILL EXIST!TODAT.

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Jesse Phoenix, AZ — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:25:56 GMT

I applaud my Aryan brothers. The blacks have gotten out of control the past few years and it is only going to get worse. Thought the L.A. riots were bad? Wait until their token negro loses the Presidential race. They're gonna burn this country down.

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Tim Hamilton — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:28:21 GMT

We hear all the time the words "free country" !
No my friends, a free country doesn't allow anykind of nazi activities ! Should be punished by death "imediately if is proved that is no doubt of their guilt ! A nazi is not a human being, is a dangerous and deadly disease ! Not only they are active here in our country but they do have conections allover the globe ! This are "terorists" !1 Every each of us do know about the II-nd world war "holocaust" ! This trash groups do deny that ever happened ! Unfortunately is very true and can be proven with the taken documentations, beside we have still worldwide those who sufered imensly from the dirty nazis ! We call them 'trash-dirt-excrements" ! By no means this nobodies do belong to human race ! All goverments have to destroy them ! Unfortunately most of us are unable to do fisical sestruction to them because we have no stomach for it ! But we can "report them if they come in contact we us to the nearest police station them to investigate them ! Son't be indiferent if you know about some activities like that ! Report them ! You can do anomimously an public phone calling for free "911" and not giving your real name !

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Blueskies — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:12:18 GMT

Why persecute white guys? We have all kinds of supremicist groups in the USA. Mostly the white working class is and has been totally powerless, everybodies patsies. Whats the point of beating a dead dog?

The Forgotten Majority
By Betsy Leondar-Wright

In America's Forgotten Majority: Why the White Working Class Still Matters, Ruy Teixeira and Joel Rogers break down voting records by gender, race and class....... men, who actually saw a new generation earn less than their fathers. Deindustrialization, globalization and de-unionization meant good jobs disappearing. Teixeira and Rogers attribute the change in voting patterns to bitterness at falling behind economically. They recommend that the Democratic party take up a platform that would help working-class white men as well as other working-class people — universal health care, retirement security, and access to education.

When I told one long-time progressive activist I was writing a cross-class alliance building manual, this reply popped out of her mouth: "We don't have to worry about those red parts of the country anymore, now that people of color are a majority." .....She was also referring to a recent Census announcement that people of color are now over 30 percent of the US population, but would be over 50 percent by 2050. I had not specified white working class people in my description of the project; it's interesting how often the words "working class" evoke a white image, and usually a white male image. And her image was not only white, but middle American and conservative. Her voice was full of scorn for white working class people, and relief that she now didn't need to work with them.......
http://www.classmatters.org/2004_07/forgotten_majority.php

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Patrice, Washington, DC — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:17:48 GMT

Wow last time a checked, black on black crime had more of a negative inpact then white on black crime. I also enjoyed how nothing was pointed to any extremiest black (black panthers) or hispanic (M.S. 13) and focused only on whites. Yet the government is trying to take away our 2nd amendment rights. And to think that this story makes the news. If any ones wants to comment on my poor grammer or spelling give me a break, I went to public school.

John Doe in Longmont-

I thought you should know three things:1. The Panthers were extremists but they didn't particularly target whites, they targeted anyone in the "oppressive" government, and they also did good things for the black community;2. Nothing pointed to any black extremist groups because there really haven't been any, and if there were, the government doesn't really consider blacks a threat(sad, but true); and 3. MS-13(or Marasalvatrucha Trece) is not a hispanic extremist group. The are a gang that does drug trafficking, illegal import and export, and will rape, and murder a person from any race if they happen to catch them. Just thought you should know. (and for anyone wondering, I am an African-American woman)

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Luther, Omaha, NE — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:19:57 GMT

Crips and Bloods...Black power groups???? How idiotic does that sound!!!! I have never, ever heard of some Black person coming out of the military and being disillusioned and saying "Hey, I want to join the Crips to make myself feel better". Let's be real!!!

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An Angry White Female Old School American Patriot in the South — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:38:04 GMT

Try being a white woman who openly states you will only date white men about your age. You are considered ignorant and a bigot eventhough you promised a beloved cousin you would stay within your race dating wise. I dont want children like Obama. The mixbreds like him spit on their white half of their heritage which nine times out of ten is their mother. Some thank you to the one that carried you for nine months I say. Also I dont want to wind up like that white woman in Ohio who was shot by her black boyfriend. Luckily he is now behind bars but most of the time it doesnt end that way. Remember OJ he DID get away with murder. Also you never hear about the myriad of black on white rapes that happen in America on a daily basis. But we heard for weeks about that rape at Duke that didnt really happen at all. What happend to racial intergrety amoungst whites? The ones who do seem to have it are labeled racist when they are only practicing racial preservation. Other races are allowed to have racial preservation why cant whites. Blacks complained about segregation yet practice self segregation with their own magazines, television station, beauty pagent and college fund. But can whites do this. HELL NO!! The founding fathers of America are being demonized because they were white males. I wished that it was a felony once again for interacial marriages to happen. Then we wouldnt have loose cannons like Obama who apparently HATE America with a passion. That New York Times picture was dead on about Obama and his wife. Any white person that supports Obama is a self hater. Obama's contributors that you DONT read about are either card carrying Commies or Muslims. Thats right America Communism is alive and well. It is all about a raceless, genderless, classless society. America was great when America had boundries. The powers that be knew damn well we Americans would accept socialist ideas but we have. They have been reformated and tied up with a pretty bow in the form of liberalism. I wouldnt be surprised if one day a fully white person in America is an endangered speices like the bald eagle once was but will they be listed like the bald eagle, HELL NO. Wake up white America you are slowly being marked for irradication.

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Samuel O'Neil, Carlsbad New Mexico — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:02:26 GMT

No "Tom The Patriot" it doesn't make me feel safer. I love all the anonymous posters here.

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Realist, New Haven, Connecticut — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:08:38 GMT

Honestly...who cares about any of your opinions. God this, or redneck that. You arent going to change anyones mind. Theres virtually nothing that an average American can do to change any of the institutions or trends in his/her own town, let alone on a national level. The average American lacks the funding, intelligence, connections, motivation, and/or genuine humanitarian desires to make any meaningful impact.

Heres some real advice:

1. Stop worrying about things that (sorry to trivialize your existence) you arent possibly important enough to impact.

2. Get a decent job so that you can provide for your family and your future.

3. Raise your kids according to your own values.

Thats it folks. Have a nice life. Look out for yourself and mayyybe do a little volunteer work if you are looking for validation and want to help.

KTHX

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Chantell, Tacoma, WA — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:49:17 GMT

Crips and bloods are not "black power" groups. The difference between White Supremacy groups and legitimate groups organized for different races is that most blacks, latinos, asians, ect are organize on behalf of equality, not supremacy. And not with violence. There are Irish, and German, and Russian groups who organize to support each other and there is nothing wrong with that. Just as long as you are not trying to "eliminate" or wage war against a group of people. Please be wise, if you have never had a black person in your home and you are white, and vice versa you will only know what you see on TV and perpetuate the cycle of ignorance. Get outside the box, invite your neighbor that you never speak to over for coffee, you just might learn something.

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H.R.Diaz — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:52:42 GMT

So, disgruntled white men are still refusing to recognize how the concepts of racial, irreducible difference and supremacy, and the reality of an internal class conflict that transcends race (i.e. an economic class conflict)and are banding together to perpetuate the type of violence that will keep them in a very bad socio-politico-economic place? What's new?

What I want to know is:

Why did minority groups that challenged their minority role in American society (e.g. Black Panthers, Young Lords, etc) receive so much negative attention, when white supremacist groups were (and are still) flourishing?

I don't think the Blood/Crip issue is really of any relevance here...unless, of course, we're talking about the formation of a self-hate consciousness that is a consequence of an entire slew of people(s) who have been systematically excluded from the real inner-workings of our society (economically and politically) and, ipso facto, causes these minority groups to implode, as it were.

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Steve Smith, St. Louis, MO — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:39:03 GMT

God does not condone hate. The people Jesus spent His time in this world with were those who were looked down on by society.

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Chris, Cleveland, Tn — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:05:18 GMT

I swear...some of you idiots who use the term " Rednecks " have no freakin' clue(Brendan, Pittsburgh, PA.) Yeah you! I am from the south and I grew up with so called rednecks. Don't use the term if you don't know what you are talking about. Rednecks where I come from are just laid back, country folk, who like to have a good time. Most being good, God fearing people. Alot of you people need to start learning your facts before you get on here blabbing your freakin' mouth's off. Alot of people in my family are rednecks and they aren't racist people by any means. Stop running your little liberal mouths and know what you say before you say it. On another note....I agree with what one person said here....our constitution protects the rights of these people. They are Americans just like you and me. They have the right to believe and think the way they want to and thats what makes this country what it is. I am in the military and I fight for my country and what I believe in......and that certainly isn't for race gangs, klans, or mobs. It makes me sick to my stomach when I hear about their actions on TV or the news. Focus on what's important like our families, our economy, and the decisions our leaders are making. Just get your terminology correct before you start thinkin' you know everything and putting it in your messages. Not all rednecks are stupid and educated racists.

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Allan, Chicago, IL — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:19:08 GMT

According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims, more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 million, are inter-racial crimes.
Most victims of race crime—about 90 per cent—are white, according to the survey "Highlights from 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims", published in 1993.
Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by black Americans in 1992, compared with about 132,000 blacks who were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey.
Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white population. When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times the number of violent racial crimes of whites.
According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks.

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dora las vegas ,n.v. sunday july 20 — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:09:15 GMT

you people better wake up,most of you are sleeping and living in the dark ages,we donot fear the kkk,skin heads, bloods, crips, or any terrorist groups, the military should send all these cowards to fight al queda if they are so bad they want to hurt or killsome onethat are inocense and put them in the electric chair let them burn the rest of their life

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Patrice, Washington, DC — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:28:17 GMT

There are African Americans,

Mexican Americans Asian Americans,

Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc..

.....And then there are just -

Americans.

Some pass me on the street

and sneer in my direction.

They call me 'White boy,'

'Cracker,' 'Honkey,'

'Whitey,' 'Caveman,'

.....And that's OK.

You say that whites commit a lot

of violence against you, so why are

the ghettos the most dangerous places

to live?

They have the United Negro College Fund.
They have Hispanic History Month.
They have Martin Luther King Day.
They have Asian History Month.
They have Black History Month.
They have Cesar Chavez Day.
They have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
They have Yom Hashoah.
They have Kawanza.
They have the NAACP.

If we had WET

(White Entertainment Television)

.....We'd be racists.

If we had a White Pride Day

.....You would call us racists.

If we had the White History Month

.....We'd be racist.

If we had any organization for only whites

to 'advance' OUR lives,

.....We'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,

a Black Chamber of Commerce,

and then we just have the plain

Chamber of Commerce.

Wonder who pays for that?

If we had a college fund that only gave

white students scholarships

.....You know we'd be racists.

There are over 60 openly-proclaimed

Black-only Colleges in the US,

yet if there were 'White-only Colleges'

.....THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million-Man March,

you believed that you were

marching for your race and rights.

If we marched for our race and rights,

.....You would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow

and red, and you're not afraid to announce it.

But when we announce our white pride

But, when a white police officer

shoots a black gang member

or beats up a black drug-dealer

who is running from the LAW and

posing a threat to ALL of society

.....You call him a racist.

Why is it that only

whites can be racists?

Cameron (Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:33 AM)

There are all kinds of Americans. If someone asks me and I say American, I am usually asked, What Kind?

Some pass me on the streets and grab hold of their purses or wallets,

Some even call me
"B***h" "hoodrat" N***a" or "Ho"
though I have no children and wear business wear,
But that's OK,

The violent whites when it comes to us, are usually in uniform, and who do you think police the ghettos, I rarely see a police officer of my own race,

We need those months because our history is not taught in school, according to most books, we didn't have a significant contribution to the american way of life,

Yom Hashoah is actually a Jewish holiday,

You do have WET, it's just called GAC, and MTV,

No one is saying you shouldn't be proud, but does that mean the rest of us shouldn't either?,

The rest of the months ARE white history months,

You do have organizations to advance your interests, one of them is Congress, my city, DC(majority black), doesn't get a vote,

As far as the Chambers of Commerce, we all pay, it's called TAXES,

You do have college funds that only give to whites, they may not say so, but you have to qualify to apply,

We have HBCU's(Historically Black Colleges and Universities) because for a long time, we couldn't attend white ones(and on a side note, they do accept whites, especially poor ones),

Why would you march for your race and rights?, Your race is in the majority and you have plenty of rights,

You can announce your whote pride all you want, just don't tell me that I'm less than you because I'm not white, or don't look at me funny if I choose to date a white man, don't follow me around in the store, even though I have money, no criminal record, and am dressed the same as any other young business woman,

It's not when they shoot gang members or drug dealers that we have a problem, it's when they shoot young men reaching for their wallets(slowly), or boys who run from the police simply because they see them(yes, we have a general fear of police, even law-abiding citizens), and when they beat people who were resisting arrest and talking back the same way white people do, when they know they haven't commited a crime, it's when I can still be pulled over for 'fitting the description', and they shoot college students who we feel had the best chance of making something of themselves and getting out of the hood, that's when we declare them racists, and truthfully, shouldn't we?

(By the way racists come in all colors, don't believe me? Ask an African, what he thinks of African-Americans.)

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Mac, Portsmouth, NH — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:50:36 GMT

“Although some veterans of these conflicts have joined the extremist movement, they have not done so in numbers sufficient to stem declines among major national extremist organizations, nor has their participation resulted in a more violent extremist movement,” the FBI writes.

Hmmm....so MSNBC's own shoddy "journalism" proves that this isn't some kind of major epidemic as the title of their article implies. This sounds like typical leftist elitist fear-mongering by the Obamabots. It is of no surprise, that such so called "investigative reporting" has been easily defecated out of bowels MSNBC. Some thing smells about this article. Why doesn't MSNBC say what they really mean? - that if you're a White, Conservative, Christian, then you're an "uneducated right-wing White-Supremacist" - and you must be "bitter clinging to guns and religion".

How come MSNBC reporting is always so one-sided? Why wasn't there an investigative article on Black-Supremacy, Hispanic gangs, or Islamic radicalism, and left-wing ecoterrorism - all groups which both the FBI & Dept. of Homeland have identified as far greater threats in recent years, then a bunch of drunk rednecks in white hoods.

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Ashley, Newton, IA — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:42:16 GMT

Whatever you want to call these hate groups is fine with me, because they're still going to be hate groups. Whether they're white, black, spotted or purple, hate and intolerance is NOT acceptable. You can party up with people like yourself and STILL be open-minded. You don't have to hop in the bed with another race to be tolerant of them. You just have to accept the fact that they are different. Hell, even all white people aren't the same. I see one white person talk about how another white person is scum of the earth. Same with blacks and other races.

If you can tolerate differences in your own race, why can't you tolerate the differences outside of your race? That's right, you can't answer, because there is no reason not to.

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Steve Gregg, Washington, DC — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:43:05 GMT

There are 1,449,428 members of the US military. 203 is 0.00014 of that or 1.4 in ten thousand. You encounter a greater concentration of extreme people just walking down the sidewalk. While white supremacist groups are obnoxious, what have they done besides shoot their mouths off? In a big organization like the US military, you are apt to find whatever you look for. If these particular journalists wanted to find black supremacist groups, they could probably find plenty of Nation of Islam members in the military. Of course, that would not support the politically correct line they seek to advance, would it?

This is an instance of the partisan game journalists play, picking one tile out of a mosaic and claiming it represents the entire picture. One white extremist out of ten thousand means the whole military is extremist to them. One gun used in a murder out of 13,000 means all guns cause homicides. One Columbine means all schools are firing ranges for maniacs. One IED in Iraq means the whole war is lost.

Partisan hyperbole is the media's game. Wise up.

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Chet Jr Yucca Valley, CA zimmer8x30@hotmail.com — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:51:14 GMT

Wow, it's not every day that one gets to witness a big jolly hate-fest like this one. I admit that I and everyone else has the absolute right to hate or love anyone or anything and there are many people and things in this world to hate or love, but keep your feelings to yourself and take personal action to position yourself above what you hate. Carping and whining about everything being someone else's fault is infantile. If you don't like your situation in this country, go live somewhere else or take control of your life and work hard to better yourself.

Nobody has to just sit and "take it". Nobody has to join any organization to attack anyone. Your power resides within you and you alone. If you're unhapppy with the way things are, do something CONSTRUCTIVE about it.

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Aura, new orleans — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:24:33 GMT

my daddy was a redneck turned hippie and my momma a flower child they got me my own gun when i was five to teach me to be safe with it and as a joke when my daddy was asked by his work to go to david duke's mansion to work on his computer he got a rebel flag signed to (name with held) a black man who now proudly displays it in his home and can't help but laugh at the crazy redneck who got it for him. as a white girl in the south i was attacked, spit on and a whole lot of other things just for trying to go to school because i was white (please somone tell me how this is my fault?) i'm tired any "minorty group" cannot be rasist but if i say that girls laughing because they spit on the white girl is racist i'm in the wrong...it is time everyone learn racisim is a two way street and untill we stop both sides of traffic everyone will be hit by cars.....sure there are white suprimest groups out there...guess what every race has their wack jobs..unfourtnatly i'm related to some of them....thus why i hate famialy reunions...but you can't pick your famialy...unfourtantly so why are people picking at each other at how non raciest they are and i'm a little bit better than this person blah blah blah and just laugh....heck i'm related to a few stupid red necks...i laugh at them it is the religious wack jobs in my famialy i dont like. there is one stupid red neck uncle who if he is caught selling moonshine to minors one more time they're going to lock him up and throw away the key they know he is selling they are sure he is brewing and the cops still havent found his still yet!?what the heck!? i'm sure we all have our fair share of wack jobs yes laugh at them....sure local cops keep a close eye on them (like they do my uncle thank hevans)if you know they're up to something report them....but don't go stirring up a possie to hang them with torches and pitch forks just yet you know how meny times the kkk has grown and died down agian now alot of those groups only get together for bbqs and a little bbq never hurt anyone.

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Mr. Mpls, MN — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:26:30 GMT

Gamgs are not a threat to america, the a threat to themselves., they have no true mission or organization. Unlike, Skinheads, and other white Supremacist whose sole purpose is to keep america white and will do anything to prove it's point, i.e Emmitt Till, Martin luther King. They should be labeled terrorist because of the people they target (any one non-white). Being a vetern myself a majority of the people who join come from broken uneducated homes...Blue collar america.

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Dorothy Dillon,Huntsville Al — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:49:46 GMT

Oh come on...these groups have been around for years,..There are big groups of them,,some have big military like compounds in the woods.Everyone has their choice of beliefs..Now all of the sudden someone wanted to bring it to our attention,Its just scary on how many members that they actually have in the united states..Our goverment knows,,but they wont tell us till its too late

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Edwin, Miami, Florida — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:10:36 GMT

Although I disagree with these idiots, I also think that they are fueled in some way by all these black "things" that are allowed. Blacks would go bonkers if there were a White Entertainment TV, or a White College Fund. Or how about a Historically White College.

Those things piss me off just as much as the skinheads. Maybe if the government would stop labeling us as Blacks, White or Latino, we could all just be Americans.

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JJ Masiga Boston Mass. — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:13:43 GMT

In response to one's coments that government has empowered minirites with with affirmmative actions the past forty years. Is this which started white supremacy which has been around for over centuries?. If you have not read history well enough, euroeans and arabs decended on people of colors way in the 16th century or before that and really done good damage on them, some have been extincted, just afew still around. Portuges every where they got, were clearing these places as new provinces of Portugal. Unless people realize we're humans and all have same feelings. this will continue. Always the weak or hopless have theses wishfull thinkg anyway, but those on the triger never mind anyway, just wish they can do this all the time.

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Kurtis Thorsted, Salinas, Ca. — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:50:43 GMT

Why do we not hire these gangs to invade Crawford Texas, and othe areas where there are crimanals of mass distruction that were supposedly voted in, evan though they stole it with the help of The Supreme Court Of The United States.

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John dereck,los angeles ca. — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:35:56 GMT

why are they referred to as white supremacist is it because they are lacking coloured pigment in their bodies,or are they test tube babies at birth.Or just biological freeks.

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Juliet Victor Bravo, Texas — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:57:47 GMT

ALCON,
These type of hate groups will attempt to recruit, and continue thier march as long as they can. The key in breaking the back of these groups is the division amongst races must no longer exist. This is being done by/through inter-racial people and thier children. Cross-breeding between races will in-fact will eventually put an end to thier views. I hope everyone understands and realizes that this is inveitable. However, as a retired veteran I will continue support the constitution and would return to active duty if asked to defend our country against all terrorists both foreign and domestic....... Reaper three three out

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John B.,Jersey,NJ — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:49:38 GMT

Someone sent this email to me a while back...
There are African Americans,Mexican Americans,Asian Americans,Arab Americans,Native Americans, etc....And then there are just -Americans. You say that whites commit a lotof violence against you,so why are the ghettos the mostdangerous places to live? You have the United Negro College Fund.You have Martin Luther King Day.You have Black History Month.You have Cesar Chavez Day.You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.You Have Yom Hashoah.You have the NAACP.And you have BET. If we had WET(White Entertainment Television)... We'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day... You would call us racists. If we had White History Month... We'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whitesto "advance" OUR lives ..... We'd be racists. We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce,a Black Chamber of Commerce,and then we just have the plainChamber of Commerce.Wonder who pays for that? If we had a college fund that only gavewhite students scholarships... You know we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly-proclaimedBlack-only Colleges in the US ,yet if there were "White-only Colleges"... THAT would be a racist college. In the Million Man March,you believed that you weremarching for your race and rights.If we marched for our race and rights,... You would call us racists. You are proud to be black,brown, yellow and orange,and you're not afraid to announce it.But when we announce our white pride ... You call us racists. You rob us,carjack us,and shoot at us.But, when a white police officershoots a black gang memberor beats up a black drug-dealerwho is running from the LAW andposing a threat to ALL of society... You call him a racist. I am proud.... But, you call me a racist. Why is it that onlywhitescan be racists? There is nothing improper about this e-mail. Let's see which of youare proud enough to send it on.

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John Waainae,HI — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:32:58 GMT

As quoted from an HBO miniseries "He who comes in with vanity shall go out in darkness, and his name shall be covered in darkness and he will never see the sun." Listen American this country is Based on Biblical principles despite the past circumstances. Hate i'm telling you is not the answer here folks, we are dealing with major turmoil that is yet to come to pass, if we continue on this mindset of Hate because of differences

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Capt America — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:49:35 GMT

When Whites get together,they are a hate group? but blacks can have their own TV network and magazines and get away with murder in this country!And immigration law only apply to non-latinas, but I only have a Masters Degree. so I guess I am one of those Dumb, Uneducated Rednecks. Why is it, people assume someone with a different opinion from theirs, must be uneducated? By the way, If you have not served in the military, you can keep your opinions to yourself.

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RJ Ma. — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:03:31 GMT

Forget the 200 or 300 men joinng groups. Write investigative stories on the 200 or 300 companies ,like oil companies robbing the Government.

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mp NC — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:45:31 GMT

I am sick and tired of whites being the only racists. The entire US government is racist. If you are white and say the N-word oh, the world is going to fall on you. If you are black and say something about whites, you are ignored. The most racist people I ever met were black. They would use their rank to gang up up on lower enlisted white guys for s*it details, and grass drills. This only occured when the platoon sgt. was not around.

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Ebonybull — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:59:46 GMT

I am not surprised by the revelation. White Supremacists groups were actively holding meetings on military bases during my military tenture in the 70's and 80's. Its membership included officers and enlisted personnel. Some even purposely enlisted to get the skills and training. Let the U.S. economy get any worse or jobs continue to be outsourced to foreigners and illegal immigrants, and you can bet anarchy will follow. Get ready for further anti-government sentiment to follow, but even greater than the 60's and 70's anti-establishment movement.

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Ebonybull — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:13:16 GMT

Being a Bigot or a Racist is not just restricted to the poor and uneducated. Something I learned a long time ago is that they sometimes wear Stars, Bars, Stripes and even black judicial Robes, but still call themselves American citizens.

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Ashamed, EARTH EARTH — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:13:56 GMT

I'm ashamed of all this. One man hating another because of god knows what. We give so much attention to our differences that we forget about the many things we have in common. People have the right ti believe in anything they want, but believing you are better over someone because of your race ethnicity etc... is just plain old sily. I hope someday we will all be citizens of earth instead of different countries. This world has so much to offer but I don't know why we are not taking advantage. But hear this all men black or white, Spanish or french will be held responsible for his actions. Just rememeber then, that you could have avoided this.

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Israel, Tel Aviv — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:17:37 GMT

Well, if you are human being u are capable of beig a racist point blank. Not much more u can say, its a sad truth but all racism is brought about by ignorance of other peoples and more importantly fear of the unknown. It will never end it will be with us until we die out as a species. It is the nature of an animal that we are to find reasons to hate othe people to get them motivated to do things in the name of their race religion, or political ideas. It is all b.s a waste of a opportunity of good conversttion, and the possibility for us all to hang out grill out, drink some beers and talk good talk and just be people. Racism is ignorance and fear, and all human being experience ignorance and fear dailY. I have no idea how to solve, nor do i partake in it. Its better to live and let live then get caught up in hate.

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Army Vetran, Florida — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:21:11 GMT

Having served 26 years in the US Army around the world as an Infantry Soldier, I find the attitudes of some of the individuals on this blog to be very disturbing. Cubana88 is right on point. As an NCO I would never condone any type of extreme behavior which would compromise my soldiers and/or the mission. Having joined the Army in 1979 I’ve watched my soldiers mirror society on the outside. They went from disco, soul, and rock to grunge and rap as so on. Does the Army have differences among soldiers? Of course it does, however we settle our issues in house. And I can assure you in the Infantry there is only one color, one religion, and so on. We live together 24-7. Although we may have different back grounds and different beliefs, but we are all brothers (and anyone who has shared a hot cup of mocha from a canteen cup with his fire team, knows what I mean). I served my country so why would I come back to do harm to the very people I served and sacrificed for? This I do not understand. I have a hard time also standing the inability of civilians to work together for a common cause. I’ve traveled the world and I’ve seen people at there best and at their worst. Why does there have to be any groups? I’m of the understanding that we are all Americans. My perspective is different then others because my world was the US Army. Regardless I attempt except and understand others. Our society like all others will continue to have challenges; these will always give birth to hate groups. And we must rise together to overcome. To quote Cuban88, “Vigilance is the key!”

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cnngwa@yahoo.com — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:23:11 GMT

exterminate the evil coded in a "white" word so that the human race may be free once small. Until that happens, I declare war!

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kitty.hawk08@yahoo.com — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:46:27 GMT

George
Whites SHOULD be the minority in Hawaii. The people who belong there are not white. it's OK if we "whities" live in the islands, but we shouldn't seek to overrun them!
Catie, Cincinnati, OH

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k.t.p., colorado springs, CO. — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:09:02 GMT

If some of you don't think the FBI investigates the crips/bloods and every other large GANG, well you’re just slow. The NAACP is in place for the advancement of color people, not to raise the black race against anyone, so that comment was stupid too. It's still funny but very sad to see white folks always trying to flip the script "well what about black people or the Mexicans" first off black gangs if you will don't come close to having the numbers of members the Arian nation has. The Latin kings maybe come close but not. Neither of these groups prides themselves on eliminating other races. Black gangs, and Latino gangs are all about the money, teritory(where the money is made) Yes it gets nasty violent at times, but it's about the money. We've seen regular mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers of all races kill for it. If these gangs had the mind set of the skinheads we'd be at some kind of civil war. All these groups are dangerous and they all need to go, but don't get it confused when talking about the main focus of each group. We should all stop being so scared of each other and playing the race card so much when one race is called out for something. Gang bangers, good 'ol boys, and white power guys are nothing new in our military folks, and most military folks know it. Going into the military sometimes helps, and sometimes not. It is what it is...

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Darrell Nimerick, Harlingen, Texas — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:42:22 GMT

Does no one care about the number of military veterans joining black and hispanic racist groups?Why are only white groups targeted here?

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Darrell Nimerick, Harlingen, Texas — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:54:21 GMT

Does no one care about the number of military veterans joining black and hispanic racist groups?Why are only white groups targeted here?

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Vii, Charleston, S.C. — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:35:54 GMT

This makes me want to break out in a Michael Jackson song....everybody sing along now.... "It don't matter if you're black or white.....owwww" boun chicka boun boun. And yes Adam from Dover, we should all try the sushi, maybe it will have a love potion in it and we can all love one another preciouly!! :-)

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c.wilkens morganton nc — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:36:59 GMT

you know i sit and i read all these comments, some are right to the point and others are just crazy. there is one thing for sure we have had terrorists in this country for years from the kkk,skin heads,black panthers,street gangs, mafia,drug dealers and the lsit goes on. when are we going to wake up and realize that we are all americans and need to stop this stuff from happening in our own counrty. this hating each other over color needs to stop it's 2008!!!!!

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J Maalis — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:39:08 GMT

Having pride in your heritage should be a good thing, but I'm starting to look forward to the day when everyone is of such mixed ethnicity that finally racism and racists no longer exist. It is too bad, but it seems like that is what it will take.

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JCE, Central CA — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:08:48 GMT

I believe many are missing the point. Terror, domestic or international, is terror. Recruitment of military for these groups has been going on for years and will continue. The best defense is information. That is what this article is doing.Arm yourself with information and don't just take this one article as the best information available. Do some research to make the best informed choice. I do not support hate or terror of any kind, but living in the United States means that you are allowed to speak your mind and believe in whatever you like. Along with this freedom comes responsiblity that many have forgotten or choose to ignor.Do everyone the favor and be a responsible citizen and educate yourselves about the world that we live in. You can not have love without hate and you can not have hate without love.

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Nick, LA, CA — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:32:58 GMT

Timothy McVeigh, was a terrorist and a murderer. Gang members can be both murderers and terrorists.
All people who inflict violence on others, lack love, compassion and even God. Persons who use God as their crutch for violence do not have any real relationship with Him. How to we resolve this hate and violence? Develop a true relationship with God and love one another as you should love yourself, unselfishly and humbly. I am a 26 year old, white, Catholic man and I love all these things about myself. I try hard to respect others diferences even if I don't agree.

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Jean Harrington, CA — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:07:36 GMT

Quote:

"they should also include the NAACP as a hate group
and a antisemitic group.....face it...all people are proud of their race and try to show it but white folks are the only ones labeled racist......the ones to watch today are the Mexican/Latino groups....there are some real hate groups within those...many say they will try and take the southwest back, claiming it was stolen from them......if they want to help lower the numbers who join these groups...stop the giving of special rights to certain peoples and lets just say equal rights for all americans...no special laws or treatment to anyone because of race or beliefs....racists are found in people of all colors......but we only hear or read about white ones....isnt that a form of discrimination...

John M, Blue Ridge, Georgia (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:42 PM)

Did you really just compare the NAACP with the KKK? Having pride in one's racial or ethnic background is not the issue. I agree that although we are all American and share that identity first and foremost, we also shouldn't forget where our families and ancestors came from. However, pride does not equal hate. The NAACP doesn't advocate or preach that African Americans are superior to others or that we should practice racial purity. Huge difference, maybe you should do some reading before you make ignorant and offensive comments like that.

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JJ Willis, McKinney, TX — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:20:18 GMT

Four things: 203 out of a million or so military personnel is a REAL low number; special ordnance training is reserved for a few specialists (not McVeigh); almost anyone can learn to shoot fairly well; the military is the best organization BY FAR to learn to work together with people of all walks of life, all colors and backgrounds. It teaches respect, integrity and honor. Hence, only 203 out of over a million.
This story reeks of the fear tactics used over and over again by some in the press who see "crisis" and "catastrophy" in everything they (leave out/invent/distort) investigate.

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John Nelson, IL — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:08:41 GMT

This is not new!!! All type of groups try to recruit from the service. I served in the 90's and was approached to join a survivalist group. I was told that they would help me find a job and a home after I left the service. There was no racial connections. Remember the military is full of all types of people and many get out and find productive ways to use their training. Many of our police, firemen, and correction officers come from the ranks of the combat arms. It's amazing that there are so few McVay's of the world considering the number of us that have been trained to the art of combat.

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WF - Atlanta GA — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:15:14 GMT

It's depressing to read any of this, this is the 21 century and we are acting like we just crawled out of a cave. Come on people if we don't get along now it's never going to happen. Hate is Hate...... white, black, Latino, Asian, native american we all live in the same country. If America wants to set an example to the world and truly become the great country we say we are we must do the right thing and embrace all people, set aside our differences, agree to disagree and respect each other to make this country a better place for our children. Because if we haven't learned what hate can do given this country's history .....well we should push the red button now.

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shanna N.D — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:08:26 GMT

What is wrong with the lady below me that she actually believes that her culture is the only. Not everyone believes that we all were born under one GOD. Since the beginning of time there has been gangs of every form... why should white supremacists be the only ones focused on. What about the japanese gangs in our country, or the mexican or the black?? why is it we only hear about white racists? There are many ethnic groups that are racist against whites. What about the NAACP??

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Bob noname Ames Iowa — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:20:08 GMT

Wow Tom the patriot seems to know so much for a boy his age! How could a left athiest know so much about the rigth wing christians. He cant be over 16 years of age! Cant pay any attention to young (know it all)squirts like him..

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C.J. Muskegon MI — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:44:15 GMT

Hey "angry white female" You bring up the cop in Ohio and O.J. but how about Scott Peterson, and the ret cop in Illinois that appears to have killed two wives. People kill their significant others all the time; which is why they are usually the first suspect, ethnicity has nothing to do with it.

Mixed breed? that's a lovely term; didn't realize that humans had specific breeds. Also; as far as Obama, I've heard him extol the virtues of his mother much more often than his father. Something I have talked about with some bi-racial people is that those that do(small minority) have issues with their white side is the animosity they have received form those relatives.

How about you go to a book store and find out how many magazines you can flip through and not see on black person in them. Or watch TV and see how many shows you can watch and see the same thing. Also there are hundreds of "legacy" scholarships that a black person will never be able to get because their gr-gr- grandfather wasn't a member of a certain organization.

As far as white people being self haters for supporting Obama, does that mean that anyone that's not white is a self hater if they support McCain? Do you not think, just like Bush, McCain hasn't gotten any money from the Middle East; but I'm sure that's ok because he's white.

It's amusing to be the "excuses" people come up with to support their hate; be they white, black, brown, whatever. How about they just be honest and state "I hate you because you're "??????". And if they actually believe some of the crap that comes out of their mouths then I guess ignorance is bliss.

As an after thought. To those who have made comments as to why gangs aren't mentioned; I've seen quite a few shows (especially on NBC) that have talked about how gang members have infiltrated the Military. But I guess it's easier to make up lies then actually watch a new show and learn something.

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C.J. Muskegon MI — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:08:46 GMT

anonymous from WV. While you're giving people bible lessons, I would love for you to show me were in the New Testament(The teachings of Christ thus for Christians) it advocates separation of peoples. Christ states love jew and gentile alike. Even the Old Testament(specifically written for the Jew), it states that Jews are to be separate from gentiles(non jews), which would include people of their own race(semetic peoples). The time that God separated people was by language because of the attempt to build the Tower of Babel. Your choice to marry whomever you do or don't want, but how about learning the true scripture and not regurgitating the racist propaganda and using Christ as a scapegoat.

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John Doe, New York, NY — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:45:57 GMT

To Mike Ford who posted complaining about 40 years of affirmative action; I do not support affirmative action but think about this: You had a 400 year head start; you should have taken advantage of it.

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GSM, Los Angeles, California — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:33:57 GMT

Race war?! These clowns don't scare me. Come to Los Angeles, California where 8 out of 10 households own firearms & start your "race war" here. We'll give you a welcoming you won't forget. Oh yeah, bring your 203 new buddies with you!

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adonisindenver24*7, Highlands Ranch, CO — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:37:00 GMT

I'm an African American. I grew up in a majority white suburb most of my life. Experienced some racial bias/discrimination here and there, usually nothing too serious, just random B.S.. I'm doing just fine. I've been around potentially hazardous situations stemming from whites, latinos and people of "my own" race. I fear no one, but I'm cautious around everyone...that's just the kind of world we live in. Most people are aware of the fact that many White-power groups today contain characters whom are bred from poverty and ignorance. Apparently recruitment is at an all-time low for people seeking those attributes.

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Robert, Louisville KY — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:51:36 GMT

Actually, from the inside 203 is deceptively low. Its not like someone that believes in white supremacy is going to sign up on a membership roll so it can be compromised and he would lose his job in this era of political correctness. I hold my beliefs close and don't broadcast them. Also, I am in no way anti American and I am definitely not a terrorist. I believe in my country but also believe that destroying affirmative action, sending the illegals back to where they came from at any cost, and ending discrimination against white males is crucial to our survival as a nation.

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L.W.Adams, Texas. — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:53:06 GMT

When are we as people of this world going to stop hurting each other and start helping? Imagine if there was "Just the people of earth." We can continue to destroy ourselves or we can build this into a world of one people.

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spoonie — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:57:30 GMT

Why get so uptight people. We all have a choice in what we do and how we do thing. If 203 ex-servicemen are part of any para-military groups speading negative ideas. They could not have been trained well enough. freedom of speech,freedom of thought

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United States Citizen — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:07:04 GMT

You know what, we are all United States citizens. If we do not start working on the problems we have and resolve them, we will not have a country. We spend too much time bickering amongst ourselves, while the rest of the world is passing us by fianancially, educationally and socially. The FBI gave a FYI report, to me, it is yet another wakeup call. We must start educating the people of the United States and become strong as a people and work together, for in this country, we are a land of people that were for the most parts not native Americans, our forefathers were brought or came here from places where they knew oppression or as a result were brought here because of it. We, their children, should remember this and embrace this fact. This is a land of opportunity, we can build upon this or fight amongst ourselves and bring about our own end, as some other country takes us over because we were to busy fighting amonst ourselves, is that what we want for our children. Some of our government agencies realize this and issue wakeup calls, look past the race issues and realize there are individuals of all colors that are just looking out for themselves and do not care about this country. They would rather be in a burning house, they can call there own, instead of working together to keep this country strong. We need these reminders to keep us, as Americans, focused and united, in a place better than most other parts of the world. We have gotten to the point, where we forget the last World War, and what Germany and Japan wanted at the time, you cannot imagine what the world would of been like if they had won, because we have neglected to teach our children. We must work together, stay educated, on all fronts and stand strong as one, that's why this place is the United States. United we stand, divided we fall. These extremist groups, white, black, whatever must not succeed, however, they do stand as a reminder, we must be vigilant, to keeping our way of life, as Americans, intact and moving forward. My hats off to the FBI, thank you and keep reporting on all those fringe groups that would see the demise of America for their own selfish ends.

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1 Awake American!!! — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:15:14 GMT

Let's see 203 nuts out of a million men in uniform. Talk about reaching for a story. Instead of scaring people with this nonsense, how about some real investigative reporting on the billions being stolen by companies feeding on the war. Does anyone really care to investigate for the real truth??..ENRON,SEPT 11th,HIGH GAS PRICES, HALIBURTON...THERE IS A CONNECTION!!!!. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!. (Thanks MIKE BARR Of Chicago)

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jimmy reece — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:44:41 GMT

in the past 40 years i have found more racist attitudes and actions among the black and latino groups than with any white group.now days its almost a crime to be proud of my anglo/saxon blood.our early must be turning over in their graves right now as they see our country being given away.i am proud to be a living descent of our fore fathers,american and white.these so called white militia groups fought for our freedom over 200+ years ago. maybe its time to do it again

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Jake, San Diego, CA — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:53:31 GMT

The reason the FBI (which mostly white) is worried about any extremest group is that it causes them to have competition. The FBI is in fact the largest extremest group in the world since the KGB and the SS. To be a FBI agent you have to pass a character evaluation and you have to borderline on psychopath or you don't make it in. This is a statement from one of the leading doctors evaluating government employees. The same goes true with police officers. The FBI is basically afraid of doing much with the Crips and Bloods because they know someone will get killed...and too, the Crips and Bloods have the Black Panthers on their sides and no one ever hears of the Black Panthers anymore because of how powerful they have become. When the Black Panthers show up for Black Defense - they show up fully armoured and look like SWAT teams. The FBI punks are no match so they have to find ignorant skinheads to pick on...so you have one idiot using taxpayers money to make a living pounding on another idiot when they should be sent to war so they can fully express themselves - like the tough guys in Guantanamo. I equal gunfire, man to man - the Muslims beat the Americans - every time.

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Lee, Ottawa, Ontario — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:34:05 GMT

Some examples of domestic terror groups (people organized to hurt or strike terror in others, those identifiably different from them as well as similar persons they see as prey or targets): violent organized crime organizations such as street gangs, criminal biker groups; racist groups of all colours (those who teach racial supremacy and hatred of other races); religiously affiliated groups who teach hatred of those they deem to be unrighteous and worthy of their contempt; politically violent groups. Be careful about the fine line between freedom of speech and speech geared to encourage hate (create a state of terror in the minds of victims).

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Jake - San Diego, CA — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:59:53 GMT

Cowards - as in government employees, Tories of the War of Independence, to become like the enemy when the enemy appears greater, to turn your back on your own people when you are needed - because you don't have the value system to stand for yourselves, to stand for what your dominator tells you to stand for, to be a white american government employee working to destroy white america so some other race can take over, to hold your heritage in disdain when you don't measure up. These are the things America is made of. To be a journalist writing hate subjects in order to measure the response. To ge a Ph.D and figure out how to methodically destroy your people - so you can write a study paper on your accomplishments. To be a cop and hate whites if they stand up for themselves - leaving you to stand with your friends with badges and guns shooting at unarmed civilians. To believe you are more than the person you killed. This is America! The land of the psychopath and the home of the coward. Long aga Jews and Christians came from the same peoples, the same tribes - now tell me - which ones are Hebrews and which ones are Israeli?

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Scott--Orlando — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:04:05 GMT

I knew soldiers that came into the Army just to learn the infantry skills to take back home to their gang. It happens with all races, colors and ethnic groups. All of those types are the extremists with in our country.

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Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:05:06 GMT

you are obviously the ignorant one to dismiss the beliefs and religions of others. If you are speakig of christianity. There are hundreds of religions that came about hundreds of years prior. open your mind and shut your mouth.

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John, Texas — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:58:12 GMT

George, Maui, Hawaii,

I couldn't have said it better myself.

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Mike Ford — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:07:59 GMT

To John Doe, New York, NY

In no way was I complaining about my lack of acheivement due to my being "White", I've done quite well and haven't needed to use my "400 year head start" as noted by you, my earlier written comments deal with my acheivements gained by HARD WORK, not by expecting to have something given to me because of the color of my skin. By the way, I'm 1/5 Native American, so may also be considered as a "Minority"!!! My family, as well as countless others, has no history of having been involved in the slave trade or having owned any so we are NOT responsible for past history!
I have however, spent quite a bit of time in West Africa during the past 30 years and can asure you that my numerous African friends would give anything to have been born in America for many reasons that many take for granted!!!

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adonisindenver24*7, Highlands Ranch, CO — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:07:02 GMT

Can't we all just get along?

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fred johnson — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:09:54 GMT

It is ok for the blavk gangs to recurit people out of the military, which also they are going into the military to learn abut how to ambush peolpe. but as soon as some white people go to whir groups it is bad. plus the gangs kill more peolpe than the white groups do and they kill their own people

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Tony Mitchell,Detroit,MI — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:25:44 GMT

Hate group members need to find something better to do with their time. They must have low self esteem. There is so much more things in life to focus on. It seems like it would get really boring. The color of someones skin, who cares! Get a life or a girlfriend.

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SHARK67 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:38:22 GMT

THE SO CALLED U.S. GOV. KEEPS TABS ON ALL OF THE GROUPS EVERYONE HERE HAS MENTIONED. SO LETS JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. AND NO THE MEXICANS DON`T WANT TO TAKE BACK THE SOUTHWEST. IT`S FULL OF USELESS
MEXICANTS.

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Irvin Boston MA — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:58:05 GMT

The black panthers have been defunct for years now. Yes they talked about black power etc but they never delivered on it. Their whole focus was to promote black unity while the group that this article is talking about is recruiting military members in order to "defend" white people i guess from people who they percieve as a danger i.e. every one else.

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em, hampton virginia — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:27:31 GMT

the United States of America was conceived by,created and protected by white people of european descent- there were no blacks, muslims, mexicans or other non white people helping to conceive of and implement the principles of self determination that has set apart America from the rest of the world. I believe that at least part of the white supremacist movement is a response of the selling out of these ideals by the wealthy and powerful who understand that minorities tend to be more easily manipulated because of group identity issues, and who become pawns for the elite powerbrokers,who are, unfortunately, white, as a rule. i believe white people who are in tune with what is happening in our country feel disenfranchised, and I predict an era of unrest.

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Non-English White!!! — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:40:14 GMT

White people of English descent are the MOST racist people on Earth. They still think that "the sun never sets over England". Racism is always the biggest and worst problem in countries such as America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and of course, their mother country of England. Most white English people, still believe that England still rules the world and they want to preserve their "whiteness" and "whitepower". I travel around the world for living and I had encountered the ugliest and most disgusting form of racism in the above countries. These English descent white people are racists and they have no tolerance for anyone who is not white. White people from Scandinavian, central, and eastern European countries are far more friendlier and they have a sense of appreciation for different cultures and skin colors. They are the ones who will be able to globalize and adapt to other people around them who are not white.

England had lost its global power a long time ago and America will lost its own soon. The next global power will be China, India, Russia, and Brazil. I hope that these new global powers will create a better world for all of us regardless of our skin colors. America is a dying star and its flame will soon die out. It will lose its political mojo in the international political arena, just like England and Spain.

FOR YOUR TRAVELING INFORMATION:

Most unfriendly and unkind countries to visit:
1. England
2. France
3. USA
4. Australia
5. Canada

Friendliest and kindest countries to visit:
1. Thailand
2. Japan
3. Scandinavian countries
4. Costa Rica
5. Switzerland

Most polite and Respectful Tourist:
1. Japanese
2. Thai
3. Swedish
4. Norwegian
5. German

Rudest and most arrogant Tourists:
1. Russians
2. Americans
3. French
4. Chinese(Hongkong)
5. English

Most well-dressed tourists.
1. Japanese
2. Korean
3. Swedish
4. Danish
5. Italian

Most sloppy-dressed tourists:
1. Americans
2. Russians
3. Australians
4. Argentinians
5. Brazilians

Most quiet Tourist:
1. Japanese
2. Danish
3. Swedish
4. Norwegians
5. Taiwanese

Loudest tourists:
1. Americans
2. Italians
3. Russians
4. Mexicans
5. French

Best tourists to do business with (always pay the asking price):
1. Japanese
2. Russians
3. Scandinavians
4. Taiwanese
5. Korean

Worst tourists to do business with(always bargain):
1. Americans
2. French
3. English
4. Hindustani(Indians)
5. Canadians

Tourists with the most advanced High-Tech gadgets:
1. Japanese
2. Germans
3. Chinese
4. Danish
5. Swedish

Top 5 LEAST expensive cities with beautiful arts and cultures to visit:
1. Bangkok, Thailand
2. Buanos Aires, Argentina
3. Mexico City, Mexico
4. Lima, Peru
5. Saigon, Vietnam

Top 5 Most expensive cities with beautiful arts and cultures to visit:
1. Paris, France
2. New York City, USA
3. Tokyo, Japan
4. London, England
5. San Francisco, USA

Most vibrant cities:
1. Tokyo
2. New York City
3. Paris

I had traveled to many places, this is how I know that white people with English descent are the most RACIST PIGS ON EARTH!!!!

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SUSAN JONES, TOLEDO OHIO — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:51:53 GMT

AGAIN THE CRIPS AND THE BLOODS ARE NOT BLACK POWER GROUPS, THEY ARE GANGS. THE DON'T RECURIT FOR RACE REASONS....THEY TERRORIZE THE STREETS AFFECTING EVERYONE...BLACK, WHITE, BROWN, PURPLE...

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SARA MOORE, COLUMBIA SC — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:56:00 GMT

I AM WHITE AMERICAN AND I KNOW THAT THE NAACP IS NOT A HATE GROUP. THEY ARE FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF COLORED PEOPLE, PEOPLE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. NOT A HATE GROUP, GANG, OR ANYTHING CRAZY LIKE THAT....LOOK UP YOUR FACTS FIRST PEOPLE

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Patriot, Minnesota — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:38:21 GMT

I am active duty and theses are my two cents for whats its worth. If you're in law enforcement in our armed forces you know that Fort Bragg is full of special interest groups, Latino, Black and White. These people join to learn tactics and for weapons training. I've seen racism go all ways in the military and that is disturbing. These groups think they have a plan to divide the U.S. and they communicate with each other. According to their plans the North West will be all White, the South West Latino, the North East Jewish and the South Black. This groups think they are sly but Patriot Americans have their eyes on them. They have another thing coming if they think this is gonna happen. I say we do as the Chinese and exterminate these groups permanently. We also need to stop this affirmative action thing. I don't want to follow someone to war that has been promoted because of their skin color or ethnicity or anything else less than merit. If he or she is not capable don't promote them or give them the job. Until this preferential treatment stops, we will have a lot of disgruntled people. Make everyone earn what they get. Which makes me wonder if on of the presidential candidates will break out the card. Hope not, he already looks bad enough going to Europe; as if they meant anything in our elections. God Bless the Patriots of our Constitution.

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John G. Bearitt, northwest Indiana — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 02:16:08 GMT

one mans domestic terrorist is another mans freedom fighter...... remember a little thing called the revolutionary war?

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carlo . new hamp — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 05:30:28 GMT

i agree with Mike Ford.. he is being honest ..when you go to these places this is what you see.,.

i am of afro-cuban and puerto rican heritage
i have family who look white. and some who look black all my white looking family . many of them,
i see when they have lost job they are pushed to aside these policy are done on purpose beginng of facsim

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Jimoson — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:22:02 GMT

lol........what about the black, asian, and hispanic gangs that practically RUN our military? You've got to be joking folks....!

Gangs are HUGE in the military and SKIN HEADS are the least of our issues....but hey. Political correctness is killing this country, so what the hell........let it go down in flames......Liberals are ruining the world. Whats new?

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Sgt.Lawrence Smith, U.S.Air Force retired, K.C.MO. — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:35:06 GMT

My name is Sgt. Lawrence Smith, U.S. Air Force retired, K.C.MO. I did not serve to promote Black or White power. I do not believe in racial mixing, however, my family is of all nationalities. I did not say that what I believe is what my family believe. We have a galaxy of different thoughts, however, we respect each other's beliefs. It just sends shivers up my spine that I served with people that hated my guts and would have killed me before they killed the real enemy!!!

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donnie, houston,tx — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:48:49 GMT

The Southern Law Poverty Center is a selperpetuating profiteering "peculiar institution" which derives their whole existence by creating white fear stories. Research Morris Dees and his former partner Fuller and discover these opportunist who prey on white southerners and even northern whites. What in the hell does this organization exists for other than creating stories such as this one. Always follow the money, hucksters can make a living creating anything on whites in a bad light. Check the facts and quit watching Oprah and Jerry Springer all day and get your information based on facts and then make a post that merits reading other than ranting the latest PC slogan.

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G. Bruce, Bundaberg, Qld, Australia — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:50:25 GMT

It is sad that the hatred which runs through peoples veins affects them to the point where they discriminate against one and all because of a chosen trait which they have decided to hate. I happen to live in a heavily multi cultural society... where it seems that everyone is racist against everyone else. My country has just as much hate... it is just not displayed in the same way as the US. Gangs and groups which prejudice people are based upon hate... Hate which robs people of happinesss, friendships, and quality of life because they refuse to get along with their fellow man. If we could only strip off our tags for each other, we would be so much happier. The damage which hatred causes is irrovocable... I hope that anyone from the younger generation who reads this will consider the way they treat others, and that perhaps those who have chosen to prejudice others will consider laying aside their pre-conceived ideas in order to co-exist with their fellow man, build friendships, and change their world for the better.

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MO — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:53:54 GMT

i'm a little late to post something. but just reading some of your comments, i couldnt help myself. Bloods, Crips do not do what they do for "money" or "drugs" etc. they do what they do for respect of their fellow gang members and respect from where they're from. as for this little story. when something actually happens, then we'll be concerned. as of right now, how bout everybody get back to real life and just deal with the daily things that ARE actually taking place and affecting us.

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T. Donald, Fort Worth TX — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:34:58 GMT

John Doe Vacaville Ca. The Bloods and the Crips are not Black Power groups. They are a bunch of thugs who do not stand for the same justices that common working black people and other minorities stand for.Don't mistake them for that. Maybe back in the late 60's and late 70's but not now. And 203 trained soldiers with tactical knowledge is a threat to society. How many trained people did it take to pull off the World Trade Center and Pentegon bombings?

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Jason, Arkansas — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:17:00 GMT

How exactly is this news? There are thousands and thousands of black and hispanic gang members in the military who are actually out there killing people; why isn't this being reported? The SPLC is a joke. They create boogey man stories like this to increase their own fundraising and to pretend to be relevant. I also find it ironic how many posters here denounce racism as "ignorance" yet then launch into a tirade against "white rednecks" and "hicks." Why is it ok to be hateful towards whites? Why is it called "racism" when whites stick together but "civil rights" when minorities stick together? After 50 years of double standards, reverse discrimination, and name-calling, is it any wonder that so many whites are angry?

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Rebecca, Albuquerque — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:46:50 GMT

I have a response to Mike Ford who says, "If you don't believe me, go into ANY government office AND VA Hospital and look at the ratio of "Minority" supervisory positions held.

Example after example of cases where Whites have been passed up for promotions by "Minorities" that actually scored lower in testing are abundant.

People should be awarded according to their accomplishments achieved, not by the color of their skin."

You appear to be saying that anyone who is a "minority" probably got the job and any promotions that come along with it because of skin color. I have a PhD that I've worked very hard for and I resent the idea that I "got" it because of my skin color. Before we make such broad claims about people, we should think about what we're saying. It's attitudes like yours that perpetuate this idea that someone "getting shafted." That's way too broad of a statement and it's like saying, "White people get all the good jobs (which black people often say) because they're white" or "Men are the only ones who can handle combat positions," or any other number of generalizations. They're simply not true. Each individual case is unique and complicated and can't be boiled down to a single factor like race. We cannot allow these unfounded ideas to continue to divide us, or we end up making the same mistakes that have been made in the past and that allow people like these white supremacists to gain power.

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ELBG, LOS ANGLES, CA — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:20:45 GMT

do not condone or agree with all of their views but must agree that White American males and their families are fed up with a government that has empowered Blacks and other so called "Minority" groups through 40 plus years of affirmative action that penalizes American whites by giving preferental treatment to these "Minorities" in terms of educational benefits and jobs. Example after example of cases where Whites have been passed up for promotions by "Minorities" that actually scored lower in testing are abundant. Mike Ford (Wednesday, July 16, 2008 4:26 PM)

CAN WE SAY HYPOCRITE. AND MIKE YOU SHOULD REALLY GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BECAUSE IT IS A FACT THAT THE BIGGEST RECEIPTANTS OF AFFRIMATIVE ACTION ARE WHITE WOMEN, SO THERE GOES THAT THEORY OF WHY WHITE POWER GROUPS WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST TO PRESERVE THE HOPES OF FAIRNESS TOWARDS WHITE AMERICA ARE YOU SERIOUS. THE UNFAIR TREATMENT OF WHITES IN AMERICA LOL. AND PLEASE UPLOAD THESE TONS OF EXAMPLES YOU HAVE ON PEOPLE GETTING JOBS THEY DON'T DESERVE STOP LISTEN TO THE PROPGANDA THEY ARE SERVING YOU AT THE MEETINGS.

OH AND TO SURFER GEORGE IN MAUI PLEASE REREAD THE ARTICLE AND OBAMA DOESN'T HATE WHITE PEOPLE OR AMERICA ARE YOU GOING TO THE SAME ONLINE HATE MEETINGS AS MIKE.

WOW I THINK I NOW KNOW WHAT UNEDUCATED WHITE PEOPLE DO DURING THE DAY WHEN THEY ARE ONLINE IN THEIR OWN CHATS ROOMS TALKING ABOUT HOW PEOPLE OF COLOR STOLE THEIR JOBS, AND TURNED THIS "GREAT" COUNTRY UP SIDE DOWN

I THINK THA

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ELBG, LOS ANGLES, CA — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:10:06 GMT

lived in DETROIT during the 60's, and believe me when I say the BIG CITY is no place for white folk if you expect to live long. After the South Central thing, I expected to see some revenge killings over Reginal Denney, didn't happen, but since that happened there has been a few more Blacks LYNCHING whites for cameras to see. There comes a point, when white folk are gonna get fed up with all the violence coming from the Black community. Its already coming to a head in high schools across America, After the OJ trial I witnessed many t- shirts sporting the quote: In fear of a Black Planet. For those I say this, Your fellow Africans cant rule or feed themselves, What the heck do you think a world ruled by Blacks would be like, Heck you live in AMERICA and still have to have handouts to survive!! The Black race complains and whines more than any other in the world, Every other race on the planet has made it in America on their own hard work and without a whimper. Not the Blacks,No we OWE them a living. This Country is an AFFIRMATIVE ACTION DISASTER area.
WhiteandAware,Concord,NC (Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:32 PM)

FIRST OF ALL ALL THESE OTHER RACES WHERE NOT FORCED, SHACKLED AND CHAINED AND BROUGHT HERE THEY CAME ON THEIE OWN "FREE"WILL SO BIG DIFFERNCE THERE, AND HOW MANY "BLACK" PEOPLE DO YOU KNOW TO SAY WITH SUCH AUTHORITY THAT THEY COUNTINUSLY WHINE AND COMPLAIN AND DO NOT WORK HARD FOR EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DESPITE JIM CROW LAWS AND YEARS AND YEARS OF CONTINUED RACISM HELL EVEN THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS JUST APOLOGIZED FOR THE LASTING EFFECTS OF SLAVERY AND HOW IT STILL PLAYS A ROLE IN THE EVERYDAY LIVES OF MANY AFRICAN AMERICANS.

THIS ARTICLE AND ALL THESE COMMENTS SHOW EXACTLY HOW RACE STILL PLAYS A MAJOR ROLE IN AMERICA AND HOW MUCH HEALING THIS COUNTRY HAS TO DO TO RID ITSELF OF IT HISTORIC DEMONS.

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Opee canton oh — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:33:37 GMT

Untill this country and media stop allowing the racist Sharptons and Farakahns of this world to control and dictate situations. While ignoring the increasing double standards and racism that exists angainst whites. Groups like this will continue to not only exist but grow.

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David Isaiah 9:6 Newark DE — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:16:43 GMT

Time has an end...... How will you explain yourself to GOD almighty?

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BILL, N.Y. CITY, N.Y. — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:11:58 GMT

INSTEAD OF WORRYING ABOUT THE 'WHITE' GROUPS, YOU SHOULD WORRY MORE ABOUT THE GANGS IN YOUR HOOD, THEIR FAR WORST THAN THESE WHITE GROUPS. MAYBE THESE WHITE GROUPS CAN WIPE OUT THESE SO CALLED GANGS, SINCE THE PUBLIC AND LAW ENFORCEMENT LET THEM GROW.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Raymond, Winston-Salem, NC skipperjay@clearwire.net — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:52:19 GMT

There have always been white supremists in the military. In August '68 I was shot at on more than one occasion while stationed at Fort Benning, just for defending myself against an assault by a staff sargeant who was a member in Phoenix City, AL. Finally the battallion Sargeant Major pulled me aside and advised that I should go AWOL to avoid being killed, but that he would disavow any knowledge of the conversation if I told anyone he said that. I did and finally wound up in the stockade at Fort Bragg. Thinking I was safe was a mistake. On Feb. 19,'69 while stoking the furnace at the front of the compound, two soldiers who'd stolen a knife from the mess hall, approached me in the furnace room and told me they were gonna teach me about f...k...g with white people and attempted to stab me in the chest. By the grace of God I only wound up with 64 stitches in my hand and in the next two days there was a bloody riot with white against black. I was only 20 with no knowledge of the klan or any other extremist group. The CID even threatened to charge me with inciting a riot. To my knowledge, even though I recounted the entire episode to them;there never was an investigation into the white supremist activity. Oh yeah! It's very real!

White-power groups recruiting from military

brad indy — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:25:26 GMT

First of all this is a story about the military and the crips, bloods, and ms-13 dont recruit thru the military. And white hate groups are far more scary to me then a black or hispanic gang. White power groups try to get into political power they are our bosses our ceos and the men who create jobs.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Solar,L.I New York — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:43:30 GMT

People have been afraid of change for years .How do you think the Indians felt when the white man came? Now they fight harder than any other race to exist in their country,our country America.This group of men & women are afraid to see their lineage gone before thier eyes.But it was never GODS plan for man to be sepparated by ethnicity anyway.That was man's plan.
Choice is a great power man has and when used for the benefit of all man it's devine.The Melting Pot Remember!!!

White-power groups recruiting from military

True Patriot, Leesburg, Virginia — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:26:52 GMT

There is nothing wrong with having pride in your community. The true problem here is the lack of education in our communities and the lack of individualism that we as Americans claim to have. We are in fact a nation of followers, afraid to step outside of our comfort zones and learn about this world we must all inhabit. Let the neo-nazi's, or who are whatever they are go about their business as long as it is within the laws. In my 32 yrs I have yet to see, hear, or have any actually evidence of this massive assault on the white race that is supposedly going on right under our noses.

To address a few of the comments on affirmative action, I would ask all those who believe that the last 35 yrs or so of affirmative action is unfair one question. Is it not true that white Americans have enjoyed total and complete affirmative action since the inception of the US? And still do.

All of this fear of the great minority uprising is due to the injustices that have been commited throughout history by white Americans on various minority groups. NEWS FLASH, there is no mass uprising coming. The vast majority of minorities are more concerned with joining our society, not destroying it as the many hate groups seek to do. They are the real haters of America.

For those who believe the Bloods & Crips are black power groups, please visit your nearest library and check out a book or two. You are obviously poorly educated and way behind the curve.

Real Americans love American, not just certain sections.

White-power groups recruiting from military

William C. Florence, SC — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:59:17 GMT

I am a veteran of the Air Force, I served back in the fifties and sixies when this was a very serious problem, but now I hope it has subsided enough so that it is not a terrible threat.However it still should be investigated.

White-power groups recruiting from military

Marissa, Murfreesboro, TN — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:52:25 GMT

Any type of group seeking to harm or kill based on race, sex, religion, or sexual preference is disgusting. There is the amendement which gives us the right to say and believe what we want, but its absolutely crossing the lines when you are recruiting based on weapon skills. That means they are seeking to hurt/kill someone. When you people want to point your fingers at other groups who have sought to hurt people, that still does no make the white power groups right. People look up the groups that you are saying are black power groups. They are gangs that care about money and territory. All you people talking about educational and career benefits for minorities, there are also white privilages. Theres privilages to being white, being a woman, being a minority, and privilages for being certain ages. So please dont throw that in any ones face. It disgust me to know that there are people teaching hate. I dont care if you are caucasion, african american, hispanic, or asian. You have one life to live, you live should live doing something positive for society.